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To: Enduro Guy

And, if Obama is NOT the President....then he CANNOT be impeached! Because those Constitutional provisions would not apply to him. How then WOULD he be removed from office? Or WILL he be?


302 posted on 07/21/2009 6:48:46 PM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: 2harddrive; All

I believe that the Capitol police would have legal jurisdiction to arrest him for illegal occupation of the Whitehouse if after its been said and proved that he cannot legally maintain office of POTUS.

But realistically it would probably be handled discretely my whoever is currently in charge of security inside the Whitehouse, which unless I’m grossly mistaken is the Secret Service but it could also be one of several branches of the military, what surprises me is that at any time its possible for a military take-over or a coup, by now its highly probable that any branch of the Armed Forces could march in its highest ranking officer and just throw everybody else out,they are fully aware Obama is a fraud.

Because almost everyone is affected by Obama being ineligible and of all of those being nominated by him, they too are holding an office illegally.

If McCain was to start holding “secret” meetings with own army of appointees it would ignite a white hot firestorm in Washington DC, just that remote chance that everyone could lose their job just because of Obamas false Presidency its no wonder they are so bitterly clinging on to any way shape or means to protect him.

And at almost any cost, it doesn’t have to be any order from Obama to silence opposition or those with the truth of his birthland, there are innumerable other people with a lot at stake.

Pelosi, HRC, all the way down the row.


305 posted on 07/21/2009 7:05:28 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: 2harddrive
And, if Obama is NOT the President....then he CANNOT be impeached! Because those Constitutional provisions would not apply to him. How then WOULD he be removed from office? Or WILL he be?

Obama is the president until he is proven to be ineligible.

Modern Impeachment Procedure:

* Impeachment resolutions made by members of the House of Representatives are turned over to the House Judiciary Committee which decides whether the resolution and its allegations of wrongdoing by the President merits a referral to the full House for a vote on launching a formal impeachment inquiry.
* The entire House of Representatives votes for or against a formal impeachment inquiry, needing only a simple majority (a single vote) for approval.
* If approved, the House Judiciary Committee conducts an investigation to determine (similar to a grand jury) if there is enough evidence to warrant articles of impeachment (indictments) against the President. The Committee then drafts articles of impeachment pertaining to specific charges supported by the evidence. The Committee votes on each article of impeachment, deciding whether to refer each article to the full House for a vote.
* If the House Judiciary Committee refers one or more articles of impeachment, the entire House of Representatives votes on whether the article(s) merit a trial in the Senate, needing only a simple majority for approval.
* If the full House approves at least one article of impeachment, the President is technically impeached and the matter is referred to the U.S. Senate. The House then appoints members of Congress to act as managers (prosecutors).
* The trial of the President is held in the Senate with the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court presiding. The President can be represented by anyone he chooses. He may appear personally or leave his defense in the hands of his lawyers.
* The entire Senate may conduct the trial or it or it may be delegated to a special committee which would report all the evidence to the full Senate.
* The actual trial is conducted in a courtroom-like proceeding including examination and cross-examination of witnesses. During questioning, Senators remain silent, directing all questions in writing to the Chief Justice.
* After hearing all of the evidence and closing arguments, the Senate deliberates behind closed doors then votes in open session on whether to convict or acquit the President. The vote to convict must be by a two thirds majority, or 67 Senators. If this occurs, the President is removed from office and is succeeded by the Vice President. The Senate's verdict is final and there is no right of appeal.

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/ That's it! There is no other Constitutional means of removing a president from office.

311 posted on 07/21/2009 8:47:48 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: 2harddrive

By a supreme court order backed by the military or capital police maybe?

All I know is... “if” this ineligibility issue winds up being true, it’s highly probable that the very thing that we have hoped and wished for all this time (ousting a usurper) could very well trigger the chaotic societal events that most of us have long feared, but hopefully prepared for. A good portion of the left will not view this a “valid ousting of a usurper”, they will view it as the “ousting of the first black POTUS by the man”.

Think about it...if the small-in-comparison Rodney King debacle can trigger the LA riots etc..., then one can only imagine what can possibly happen here.

It’s almost like a movie...


328 posted on 07/24/2009 4:48:57 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
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