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To: kabar; 1rudeboy

What good of Reagan and Bush’s (senior) anticommunist policy that brought freedom to Eastern Europe if their successors push us again into the hands of the same Soviet (Russian) bear?

Mr. Kabar, you are outraged by the East European nations which critisise G.W.Bush for Iraqi war. I am Polish and I live in Poland, so let me say that these are my thoughts too. However, I don’t critisise him for toppling Saddam’s regime as a rule, because that was a correct decision. I criticise him for neglecting NATO countries’ security by too confident relations with Russia and too big concessions in order to obtain her approval for US forces engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan. In other words, rob Peter to pay Paul.

Free Independent Poland has always been a staunch ally of the US-British alliance. It was, it is and it will be.

From the very beginning Poland had her substantial contribution to the operation Iraqi Freedom. However, if all that America can do for Poland’s security is to send her two units of unarmed and inoperational Patriot missiles, then this is rather a good theme for German and Russian cabarets that have much to laugh of our Atlantic commitment.

How would you feel Mr Kabar if you heard such mockery one by one, because we have to hear it regularly! “Look, Poles!”, they say, “Give them more Polish soldiers to be killed in Iraq, so maybe one small day they will send you the third INOPERATIONAL batery of Patriots.

I’ve always been pro American and proud of America’s freedom policy for the world. So, if I start to doubt, then again, who doesn’t?


25 posted on 07/20/2009 8:28:18 AM PDT by Matt_Rel
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To: Matt_Rel
What good of Reagan and Bush’s (senior) anticommunist policy that brought freedom to Eastern Europe if their successors push us again into the hands of the same Soviet (Russian) bear?

I understand your concerns having lived in Warsaw 1981-83. Living in a communist state is something I would recommend to a lot of these people who have no idea what it means to live in a totalitarian state. I know that the Poles have no desire to return to that kind of oppression.

Although I understand your fear of the "Russian Bear," Poland's membership in NATO offers you protection from any forcible seizure of Poland by Russia. And I doubt that there are any significant internal forces that would want to return to the days of communism.

You will have to educate me as to what specific concessions Bush made to Russia in order to obtain "approval" to enter Afghanistan and Iraq.

From the very beginning Poland had her substantial contribution to the operation Iraqi Freedom. However, if all that America can do for Poland’s security is to send her two units of unarmed and inoperational Patriot missiles, then this is rather a good theme for German and Russian cabarets that have much to laugh of our Atlantic commitment.

As a member of NATO, Poland has a very strong commitment from the United States and the other member countries under Article 5 of the NATO treary, i.e.,

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

I’ve always been pro American and proud of America’s freedom policy for the world. So, if I start to doubt, then again, who doesn’t?

I don't know when this doubt started, but you should never doubt America's commitment to freedom and our promise contained in the NATO Treaty.

26 posted on 07/20/2009 9:28:06 AM PDT by kabar
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