Posted on 07/19/2009 8:57:41 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
“Ok, let’s take this hypothetical event a little further - what would happen if thousands of armed citizens showed up in Tennessee to support the state and oppose the feds? “
THAT’S EXACTLY what needs to happen. The state is trying to help the citizens to throw off this fraudelent government, led by the biggest FRAUD in history, and they should be given all the help they need. I think then you’d see all the rest of the states would follow suit(except deleware of course).
Bang!
>>>>Let’s see if zero will try to “isolate” that state for daring to pass and enforce its own laws in contrast to what the government wants<<<<
Rest assured that it will be the REDDEST of Red States that he has NO chance of carrying.
I bet he hits them HARD (attempt to make as an example), then he will rely on his communications Czars (MSM) to ravage them in an attempt to turn public opinion his way.
True, but claiming that every FFL holder in Montana and all LEOs friendly to those FFLs are child molesters will strain credibility somewhat.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m taking this seriously...but these ATF guys are fools if they think that the Montana stste government didn’t consider these possibilities before they passed the bill.
True, but claiming that every FFL holder in Montana and all LEOs friendly to those FFLs are child molesters will strain credibility somewhat.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m taking this seriously...but these ATF guys are fools if they think that the Montana state government didn’t consider these possibilities before they passed the bill.
Stop shouting, please.
Delay tactic: If the feds try to call out the Guard on a State, let the Governor say, "Sorry, we don't have the funds to pay for that (the economy, you know). And until the fed hands over cold hard cash, the Guard will just sit and wait".
See post 47...sniff?
This would occur regardless of whose administration is in power.
These people are WAY out of control.
Ouchie! I guess this means I have to give up my role as the Official Grammar Queen.
...as yet I don't, but I have a feeling we are quickly approaching a point, where someone will.
Much more closely aligned to the libertarian way of thinking... While I won't go so far as to say they're pro-abortion, they're certainly not anti-abortion (remember, it was an abortion that saved the world from the anti-christ!). And they're 100% against the war on drugs, two planks of the platform that most "conservatives" hold dear. And then, let's not forget that they're just a wee bit disrespectful and dismissive of religion as well, all of them pretty much getting kicked now and then, though the episode where it was revealed that "The Mormons are right!" was quite a hoot!
And as I said in my post, I happen to love the show, and have been a huge fan since season 1. But I wouldn't call the show "conservative."
Mark
For that to work it took lots of brainwashing and graphic TV imagery, with clear victims and villains, to gain public support for the feds coming in. So, until we see some kind of horrors in Tennessee, the victims and the villains, nothing like 50s & 60s federal intervention will take place. That's basically their SOP for that kind of intervention.
Even for the comparatively tiny assault on Davidians in Waco, it was preceded in the weeks ahead by a flood of horrific child abuse rumors peddled by local media. At that time, several days before the attack, I was discussing in a Compuserve newsmedia Forum the media propaganda techniques and happen to use anti-Koresh articles from AP as an excellent illustration and transparent example of their techniques, suggesting that something bad will happen to these guys soon. Several days later the assault took place and I was treated like a prophet in that group from there on.
MAN I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE POSTING ANYTHING FROM THE U.N...............BUT HERE IT IS:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights Preamble
On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the full text of which appears in the following pages.
Following this historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to publicize the text of the Declaration and “to cause it to be disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and other educational institutions, without distinction based on the political status of countries or territories.”
PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,
Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,
Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,
Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.
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Article 1.
•All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
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Article 2.
•Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
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Article 3.
•Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
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Article 4.
•No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
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Article 5.
•No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
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Article 6.
•Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
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Article 7.
•All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
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Article 8.
•Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
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Article 9.
•No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
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Article 10.
•Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
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Article 11.
•(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
•(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
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Article 12.
•No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
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Article 13.
•(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
•(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
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Article 14.
•(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
•(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
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Article 15.
•(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
•(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
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Article 16.
•(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
•(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
•(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
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Article 17.
•(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
•(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
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Article 18.
•Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
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Article 19.
•Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
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Article 20.
•(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
•(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
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Article 21.
•(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
•(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
•(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
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Article 22.
•Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
THERE IS ALOT MORE, JUST CHECK U.N. HUMAN RIGHTS. LIKE I SAID GO FIGURE............THE U.N. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT...JUST 7 MONTHS AGO.
When the Supreme Court ruled in Worcester vs. Georgia that he had no right to do this, he is said to have ... “John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.” You’re right - same thing applies here.
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