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Why are there even managers of this pension fund if they've been relying on outside advice/opinion givers? What happened to personal accountability here? This kind of sh!t (lawsuit talk) is crazy.
1 posted on 07/18/2009 7:55:47 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe
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To: LowCountryJoe

You can’t get blood from a stone. The ratings agencies were wrong. Their screwups (fraud?) certainly affected my investment decisions - for the worse I might add. But there’s nothing to be had from them. Short of proven fraud, CalPERS is wasting time and money.


2 posted on 07/18/2009 8:01:47 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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So, the pension managers are suing the rating companies for missing 'obvious indicators' which were so obvious that the pension managers missed them, too.

Talk about losers attempting to mask their own incompetence.

3 posted on 07/18/2009 8:08:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: LowCountryJoe

The notion that the ratings agencies are to blame for this mess is laughable. Only a complete idiot would have made the investments CalPERS has made, irrespective what the ratings agencies said.


4 posted on 07/18/2009 8:11:04 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: LowCountryJoe

Calpers is nothing if not a whiner. I’d be really surprised to learn that the rating agencies never published some kind of disclaimer.


5 posted on 07/18/2009 8:12:01 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: LowCountryJoe

But of course, they’ll never find fault with the real designers of this catastrophe — Congress and it’s oversight of Fannie/Freddie. (No money in it.)


6 posted on 07/18/2009 8:12:47 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: LowCountryJoe
We all know that the ratings services "cooked the books" as part of the scheme (dare I say conspiracy?) to increase the profits of themselves and their Wall Street insider partners.

But looking back won't get the money back. Looking towards the future, the suit might serve to deter such behavior in the future.

7 posted on 07/18/2009 8:16:13 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the hell out of the way!)
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To: LowCountryJoe

I read about the rating services role in the financial crisis last Fall as things began to break into the news. Had been wondering why things were so quiet on this front for so long. Of course, their entire net worth wouldn’t make up a fraction of 1% of what has been lost in asset value.

But if they were closing their eyes to reality, or even accepting payment for good ratings (as some have claimed), they should pay a stiff price as they totally failed in the function they claimed to provide.


10 posted on 07/18/2009 8:26:36 AM PDT by Will88
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To: LowCountryJoe
Remember WPPPS?

Rating agencies should carry insurance in case they are wrong. The better their assessments, the lower the cost. The market then finds an equilibrium between oversight costs and pooled risk mitigation. We don't need the SEC.

12 posted on 07/18/2009 8:32:40 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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