The healthcare plan Obama wants for everyone is not near the plan Romney wanted for Mass. Romney felt he was doing the people a great service but he never advocated they die off when they were too costly for the system.
Romney's plan may have worked but I have been told that when it was implemented they had no money and the plan could not survive the way it was meant. It was wrong and I believe Romney does not stand a chance at the presidency once the citizens of Mass speak out. They are saying it is extremely expensive and no one is getting the care they need. Only the responsible have signed up and are paying their share and the freeloaders share.
With Obama's plan he is saying it is so bad that he has exempted himself, his family and capital hill from it. Only the serfs will be forced into this plan. Obama said himself when asked if he would go along with his healthcare plan, he said if it were my family I would want the best of care. Totally avoiding the exclusion in the bill that congress gets to keep their golden healthcare plan paid for by taxpayers. They can pick and choose where and who they want to see. YOU will see who they say and when they say.
Once any plan kicks in the medical field will be so overloaded by the ones getting free healthcare you will never see a medical professional. Anything free is abused. 20% of a group health plan uses 80% of the coverage. It's a fact. Did you see the article where 4 people had made like 900 visits each in 2 years to emergency? It was free.
Now I know you will run back and say this is all lies but it is plainly in the bill. The other obama plan in the bill is every 5 years (or more often if sickly) your parents and grandparents will sit with a government agent and discuss their end of life care. Euthanasia is what they call it. last night on cavuto it was mentioned that they will sign forms and the guy said it would save money and his complaint was CBO did not take into account the euthanasia savings.
I was raised to believe no one knows when we die except God. If you don't believe in God, then believe in a Obamacare who says you are too costly for our system so take the pain pill because we are not paying for your medical treatments. At Obama's pre-planned, and staged town hall on healthcare, a lady said she was able to get a pacemaker for her mother at 92. She sounded upset that the first physician refused because of her mothers age. Coldly Obama said maybe she should take the pain pill instead. As we applaud the oldest people in our newspapers weekly, obama feels they are too costly.
It is all in the bill and in obamas words what he wants America to accept. The costs for the elderly are to steep so they must die. Did you hear when Obama said I went through this with my grandmother and her hip surgery. He meant maybe she should not have had the surgery because in a few months she was not doing better. Then obama goes to see her, within a day or two after he leaves she dies. Right as planned. Then before media finds out she has been cremated. I was told within hours of her death. Sounds to me like Obama used his grandmother for his future healthcare plan for seniors.
It makes me sick to think of my parents going through government telling them they should consider physician assisted suicide so others can have healthcare. In fact I can tell you my loved ones will not be going to the government discussing any illness or end of life.
There is so much more obama is lying about. He does not intend on anyone having their own private plans. Jake Tapper caught the lie, obama fessed up and then went right back to telling the lie again at the next media hype. Jake called him on it in a article. I doubt obama knew he was doing it because his messages are all scripted and he has no clue what he is saying. Just words to Obama. Words to fulfill his fascist dreams.
Remember what I post here, this healthcare plan if it goes through will be revoked. It is illegal and Americans will not stand for obama's agenda to depopulate his opposing party or old people. Right now dems are scratching their heads whether obama has the rights within the constitution to do what he has done. Once it affects them as in not getting re-elected they will finally know obama has done many things not of the Constitution.
Liberal or conservative, Obama is taking revenge on the people who made America great. He wants change and that change (power over you) will bring down America.
32 trillion is promised in government run medical programs which is bankrupt for the most part or due to run out. And how is putting another 50 million people in a government medical program going to help that problem? Unless of course, we give up our health care plans and give obama the premiums we pay instead. Thats 50 million uninsured because they are illegal or cannot afford insurance, or are between jobs, or could apply for medi-cal /medicaid but have not. Another percentage of that 50 million invincible young feel they do not need it. Some have it offered at work but refuse to pay for their healthcare. They have other priorities. So who is going to pay for the 50 million not able to pay anything?
Now as Obama takes your wealth and hands it to Jeff Immelt of General electric, obama also got his buddy Daschle a nice board membership in GE's healthyimagination medical registry. The one that will decide who gets rationed. The daschle who wrote the book on healthcare reform that looks justlike the chart of obama big government health reform Boehners released.
As President-elect Obama's apparent choice for health and human services secretary and as White House health care czar, it is a fair guess that Tom Daschle's view on health care legislation may be decisive.
"Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis," in which the gracious former Senate leader lays out without equivocation both the policy he recommends and the tactics for how to pass it.
He proposes setting up a board to establish standards for health care delivery in the United States that would be modeled on how the Federal Reserve Board and Securities and Exchange Commission oversee banks and corporations.
On Page 179, he writes, "The Federal Health Board wouldn't be a regulatory agency, but its recommendations would have teeth because all federal health programs would have to abide by them." Although his board technically would have no say on the 68 percent of health care that is provided through the private sector, at the bottom of Page 179, Daschle modestly adds: "Congress could opt to go further with the Board's recommendations. It could, for example, link the tax exclusion for health insurance to insurance that complies with the Board's recommendation."
Those last 19 words would spell the end of independent private-sector health care in America. Obviously, no health insurance would be sold if it were denied the tax deduction. Thus, every policy, every standard decided by this board would be the law of the land for every drug company, every hospital, every doctor and every health insurance company.
in the section in which he identifies "losers" under his plan, Daschle is admirably candid. Among the explicit "losers," he includes: "Doctors and patients might resent any encroachment on their ability to choose certain treatments, even if they are expensive or ineffectual compared to alternatives. Some insurers might object to new rules that restrict their coverage decisions. And the health-care industry would have to reconsider its business plan (emphasis added)." That is to say, they can stay in business and deliver their services, but only as the government bureaucrats say they may. They no longer would be genuinely independent.
We have already seen Obama tell private corporations what they can or cannot do and with threats.
One of the things that Daschle says will have to change is the "technology arms race" he claims hospitals are engaging in "to attract aging baby boomers with the latest diagnostic imaging machines." Imagine that, offering customers the latest technology, which, as Daschle admits on Page 125, "help(s) doctors estimate the spread of cancer or the extent of cardiac disease without surgery."
Recent cost cutting measures announced by drug companies, hospitals, insurance companies, medical device manufacturers, labor unions.
1. Cut diagnostic imaging tests like MRIs and CAT scans.
2. Reduce the use of antibiotics.
3. Perform fewer Caesarean sections.
4. Cut care for management of chronic back pain
Of course, for Daschle, the problem with such high-tech diagnostics is that it leads to treatment. On pages 123-124, he cites a study approvingly for the proposition that there are too many angiograms being performed. By too many, he specifically cites a study of 828 angioplasties in which only a third were likely to benefit the patients. Another half might or might not, and 14 percent were not likely. Now I might conclude that if 85 percent of the patients receiving the treatment might benefit (the one-third who definitely would and the 50 percent who might) and if I were one of them, I might want the procedure. But for Daschle, that would be a waste of money, and "the imaging test that shows narrowing of the arteries was to blame (for the excessive treatment)."
What followed is my favorite line in the book: "When the test revealed a narrowing of the artery, however slight, cardiologists couldn't resist doing something about it." Imagine a doctor trying to cure his patient.
Cardiologists may have thought they were carrying out their responsibilities. But under the Daschle(/Obama?) plan, political hacks appointed to the Health board will decide whether your cardiologist is allowed to image your arteries and, if they find blockage, try to treat it successfully.
But that is not all he doesn't like about private-sector health care. On Page 174, he points out the dangers of letting drug companies advertise their products to the public: The public may want the drugs even if some Washington bureaucrat likes another drug instead.
He believes that Americans are not entitled to just any care that might do some good. Yep, Page 122: "Many patients with insurance want any care that might do some good, and plenty of doctors will oblige them."
Recognizing that some of these ideas may not be vastly popular, he recommends two basic legislative strategies.
Quotes: We’ve got to get it done this year,” Mr. Obama said, standing on the South Lawn of the White House, surrounded by House Democratic leaders. “We’ve got to get it done this year, both in the House and Senate. We don’t have any excuses.”
"This next 6-8 weeks is going to be critical," he told his audience, asking them to help pressure Congress to get it done. If the country puts off health care reform, he said, "it's never going to happen."
The other strategy, which is very smart, is to leave the nasty details out of the bill. He says that was one of Clinton's mistakes in 1993. Clinton put too many details in the bill, thus alerting those who disagreed to mount an opposition (pages 108-109). Daschle recommends passing a vague bill and then "a Federal Health Board should be charged with establishing the system's framework and filling in most of the details. This independent board would be insulated from political pressure."
Obama said last week, just pass a bill, details can be worked out later.
(Congress did the same with the stimulus, omnibus and 2010 budget. No one read it. Now we face a 1100 page climate bill that no one has read.)
By "political pressure," he means the democratic process of electing fellow citizens to Congress who then pass legislation about which the public is informed before final passage -- and about which they may wish to petition their government for redress of grievances. Apparently, we can end petty bickering and partisanship by not letting anyone know what the new laws will contain.
Obama Stimulus Plan
The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.
These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”
New Penalties
Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)
What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.
Someone you can't vote out like Obama's 32 czars.
He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.
Elderly Hardest Hit
Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
Your great leader is exempt. Obama plans on being POTUS forever so he has to have the best of healthcare. And for those wanting Universal health care or single payer, I can onlysay take a good look at Obama's 18 million dollar website to show you where the stimulus dollars are going. This is the person who will set up administration that costs less than private insurance companies?
good post