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Hunters get go-ahead to kill pythons in Big Cypress, Florida - the python posse
miamiherald ^ | Posted on Friday, 07.17.09 | By CURTIS MORGAN

Posted on 07/17/2009 6:08:47 AM PDT by dennisw

The python posse is turning into a brigade.

The federal government on Thursday said it would open up Big Cypress National Wildlife Refuge, which borders Everglades National Park, to a pilot program allowing licensed hunters to ''terminate'' any python they encounter.

It's part of a broad program to control the invasive snakes, laid out Thursday by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. The announcement comes days after Florida Sen. Bill Nelson called for a controlled hunt in Everglades National Park and state wildlife managers announced they would permit expert trappers to kill snakes on state marshland.

The program includes many things park scientists have been doing for years to battle the Burmese import: outreach and hot lines for the public; studies of python movements, habits and threats to the ecosystem; and programs to design python traps and sexual scents that might be used to bait them.

But Salazar, who pledged to tackle the snake problem during his first visit to the Everglades in May, also vowed to seek more funding to expand efforts.

For instance, federal scientists are working with the University of Florida to develop drone aircraft with thermal imaging to pinpoint the difficult-to-detect snakes.

The park also might add to the dozen agents who have removed hundreds of pythons during the past few years, and will consider whether to expand the state's expert posse program into Everglades National Park.

One hurdle is a park prohibition against hunting. But the pilot program will open federal land in the Big Cypress, where seasonal hunting and guns are allowed. Because no laws protect python, there is technically nothing to prohibit properly licensed hunters from shooting them now, but the program would formalize the effort and data collection.

''We are committed to aggressively combating this threat, including having trained and well-supervised volunteers hunt down and remove snakes,'' Salazar said in a release.

Eradicating python will be difficult. Scientists say less than 5 percent of the estimated 100,000-plus snakes in the park are ever seen. Hunting alone likely won't do it. ''There is no one silver bullet,'' said Paul Souza, field supervisor for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.


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To: bobjam
Seven Snakes !
How many hunting licenses are issued in Florida ? Assume 200,000 or so.
The governor should announce that every Floridian with a valid hunting license shall be allowed to take three snakes a day with a weekly bag limit of ten. Problem solved.
21 posted on 07/17/2009 6:31:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tacticalogic

“Anybody know if python is good to eat?”

You betcha!...bet Sarah Palin can cook ‘em up real good.


22 posted on 07/17/2009 6:32:24 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug (s)
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To: BubbaJunebug

I see opportunities for a leather business.


23 posted on 07/17/2009 6:35:03 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Leg Olam
"We need a ‘Python Czar’!!!"


Exactly! And a full suite of bureaucrats and staffers with full 1.5x pension plan and medical benefits. Don't read the bill, Congressman, just pass it. It's urgent!
24 posted on 07/17/2009 6:35:12 AM PDT by loungeSerf (Truth-In-Legislation Amendment)
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To: dennisw
Python is one huge muscle that strangles its prey. I have to think it is very tough and hard to cook and make tender enough to eat.

Maybe. But you might be surprised what a few minutes in a pressure cooker will do for a tough piece of meat.

25 posted on 07/17/2009 6:40:57 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GladesGuru
Some of them ParcCakes is fruitcakes.

I don't care what they do, as long as they don't frighten the alligators. At any rate, any fruitcake activity should be easy to monitor with the thermal imaging drones. Unlike your average Burmese Python, the activities are reputed to cause some heat.

I need to study this. Send stimulus money.

26 posted on 07/17/2009 6:41:43 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Just unpatriotic. And dumb.)
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To: GladesGuru
"federal scientists are working with the University of Florida to develop..."

Secure the Federal Funds first, then explain to the Feds that they are cold blooded.

That way you can procure and keep a bunch of FLIRs for your own use. And maybe the school's own drone for football games.

27 posted on 07/17/2009 6:48:13 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (I spent all my money on women & booze, the other rest I just plain blew.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“I suppose only steel shot will be allowed...”

...good one Eric! ;-)


28 posted on 07/17/2009 6:52:34 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: dennisw

Anyway, like I was sayin’, python is the fruit of the swamp. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey’s uh, python-kabobs, python creole, python gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There’s pineapple python, lemon python, coconut python, pepper python, python soup, python stew, python salad, python and potatoes, python burger, python sandwich. That- that’s about it.


29 posted on 07/17/2009 6:56:15 AM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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I was wandering around in there yesterday. Stumbling across alligators scared the be-jeezus out of me. The small black snakes sunning themselves on the road startled me. The bobcat crossing the road amazed me. I cannot imagine walking across one of these big snakes.

I am going back to the North, where you just have to worry about black bears and liberals.


30 posted on 07/17/2009 6:58:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ein Volk, Ein Riech, Ein Ein.)
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To: dennisw

“Hunting alone likely won’t do it”

...oh yes it will! ....put a financial reward on the snakes and hunters will wipe them out....I’ve seen market forces almost eradicate alligators in my lifetime...only to see them bounce back when protected....if the money is right, guys will hunt pythons to extinction.


31 posted on 07/17/2009 7:04:23 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: magslinger

Gold star for the day !


32 posted on 07/17/2009 7:05:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: dennisw

Nuke ‘em from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.


33 posted on 07/17/2009 7:06:45 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Thanks. Actually I wouldn’t mind having a few pounds of python to play with. I could probably make something good out of it.


34 posted on 07/17/2009 7:14:20 AM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: dennisw

“...federal scientists are working with the University of Florida to develop drone aircraft with thermal imaging to pinpoint the difficult-to-detect snakes.”

How does thermal imaging work with an exothermic organism? The only time you could “see” them is when they’ve just moved from one environment to another and have not yet warmed or cooled to the temperature of the new environment. Even with a large bodied animal (which will change temperature more slowly), that’s got to be a pretty small window. Inquiring minds...


35 posted on 07/17/2009 7:28:22 AM PDT by stormer
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To: George from New England

According to the article, you could have already been killing snakes, they’re not regulated like other species there. This just formalized it so they can get numbers killed and such. I don’t really understand why they’re throwing money at the issue when all they really need is for the person who killed the snake to let them know by a phone call or dropping it at their doorstep for further study.


36 posted on 07/17/2009 7:28:31 AM PDT by Hatheos
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To: magslinger
I'd take a smoked turkey sandwich any day vs. snake.
37 posted on 07/17/2009 7:29:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: dennisw

Just tell the Cajuns they are against the law to hunt and good to eat. They be good and gone cher !!


38 posted on 07/17/2009 7:35:19 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: GladesGuru

“Trying to spot a cold blooded critter with thermal imagery, particularly when they are under the vegetation is probably beyond the ability of ParcMan.”

Not to mention the pockmarked limestone Karst topography with about a zillion holes per square mile.


39 posted on 07/17/2009 7:36:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: dennisw

***For instance, federal scientists are working with the University of Florida to develop drone aircraft with thermal imaging to pinpoint the difficult-to-detect snakes. ****

But aren’t snakes cold blooded? How will this work?


40 posted on 07/17/2009 7:51:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (La commedia e' finita!. Now it's serious!)
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