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Helen Thomas: "Afghanistan Now Is Obama’s War" - "Reminiscent Of Vietnam" [GRAPHIC IMAGES]
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 15 Jul 09 | Helen "Do We Ever Learn?" Thomas

Posted on 07/16/2009 9:24:22 AM PDT by seanmerc

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To: TexasFreeper2009
"At a time and place of our choosing."
61 posted on 07/16/2009 11:18:57 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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“Johnson was not interested in winning or losing the war - he and his inner circle wanted to perpetuate it for as long as politically viable for the benefit of certain contractors...”

I don’t know enough about this to say whether I agree or disagree with you, but I wonder what you think of JFK’s involvement in this, because I thought our military efforts in Viet Nam began under his watch. The historical impression I have of JFK (I was two when he was assassinated) was that he was strongly anti-communist so that he acted in good faith in trying to halt the expansion of communism in southeast asia. Although he was a democrat, it seems to me that he was much more conservative than the rest of the Kennedy family.


62 posted on 07/16/2009 11:21:26 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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[. . .(Gen.)Westmoreland . . .who kept escalating the troop numbers after the 1967 Tet offensive in Vietnam. His strategy produced a debacle for us.]

Tet began Jan. 30, 1968. It resulted in the death of about 50,000 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troops. The U.S. lost around 1,500 troops (KIA) and the South Vietnamese forces less than 3,000. North Vietnamese Gen. Giap tried to apply a strategy, used by Mao in China and Castro in Cuba, that predicted urban populations would revolt and turn against the South Vietnamese government when the NVA and VC attacked the cities. But most South Vietnamese had an opposite reaction and the offensive was a defeat for Giap. However, the U.S. news media immediately began to spin the Tet Offensive as a communist victory. Instead of exploiting the crippling losses suffered by the NVA President Lyndon Johnson threw in the towel. He suspended U.S. bombing of North Vietnamese logistics centers and the supply lines that would be used to slowly rebuild the NVA presence in the South.

The real “debacle” took place in 1975 when a cabal of Democrat traitors—including Church, McGovern, and Kennedy—led Congress in cutting all funding and U.S. military support to South Vietnam. After beating back two massive North Vietnamese offensives, the South was finally overrun by the North which was equipped and supplied by the Soviets. This led to systematic genocide and a huge refugee flood out of South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.

Two Democrat presidents, a Democrat Congress, and their ignorant enablers in the news media, like Thomas, authored this debacle.

63 posted on 07/16/2009 11:37:55 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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“The Face That Sank A Thousand Ships”


64 posted on 07/16/2009 2:48:47 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: seanmerc

Seems as though Hellen is continuing to hold a grudge. Journalists should be ashamed that this is one of the most hard-hitting articles Obama has had to face- and it’s pretty weak sauce!


65 posted on 07/16/2009 5:51:14 PM PDT by Melian ("Now, Y'all without sin can cast the first stone." ~H.I. McDunnough)
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My God! Who is that?

..a fleetingly (beautiful) photo, pulled from FR.


66 posted on 07/16/2009 9:13:27 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to Zer0's Peasant Care ® You Sucker... Now Die! :)
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To: seanmerc

Don’t tell me even Helen Thomas is turning against Obortion Obama.


67 posted on 07/16/2009 9:17:48 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
[Tet began Jan. 30, 1968....The real “debacle” took place in 1975 when a cabal
of Democrat traitors—including Church, McGovern, and Kennedy...This led to
systematic genocide and a huge refugee flood out of South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.]

yhea, pretty much "sums" it all up.
Marxist ("Progressive Socialist" Democrats)
Liberals, Enemy of Freedom and Liberty.....


68 posted on 07/16/2009 9:31:05 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to Zer0's Peasant Care ® You Sucker... Now Die! :)
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To: Salvation
Don’t tell me even Helen Thomas is turning against Obortion Obama.

she won't be the last....Zer0 et al shall retire her...
stripping her... *NO!* (banish that mental thought :), of her Press Cred.


69 posted on 07/16/2009 9:37:45 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to Zer0's Peasant Care ® You Sucker... Now Die! :)
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[Liberals, Enemy of Freedom and Liberty....]

George McGovern couldn't stand the fact that Richard Nixon, who inherited LBJ's “lost cause,” bombed Hanoi into submission, ended the draft, instituted Vietnamization of the war, began withdrawing U.S. forces, and created the All-Volunteer Army. Even after Nixon was ousted by Watergate, the continued existence of a free South Vietnam threatened to become one of his positive legacies.

Almost 40 years later Obama and the Democrats are experiencing Deja Vu. If Iraq remains stable and it preserves its budding democracy it becomes a lasting legacy to Bush and the incredible sacrifices of our military. Two weeks ago Joe Biden was in Iraq. He told Iraqis that if there was a return to terrorist violence “you are on your own.”

70 posted on 07/16/2009 10:19:21 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
..it seems history repeats itself....and again.
Liberals...its' not; they never learn, they just don't care.

71 posted on 07/16/2009 10:45:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to Zer0's Peasant Care ® You Sucker... Now Die! :)
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