[2ndDivisionVet]

Amazing!

[mamelukesabre]

So if he refuses to pay his mother’s health bills, does his daughter get stuck with it?

[rabscuttle385]

WTH

[TheZMan]

At some point you just have to declare bankruptcy and say to hell with it all.

[Libloather]

This one's going to blow baby boomers' minds.

Just how many is that? Two or three?

[cynwoody]

Move to Honduras and leave no forwarding address.

[Kirkwood]

Declare her mentally incompetent and then take control of all of her money.

[familyop]

More elite kids must be needin’ jobs. The credit games are part of the job shuffle.

That’s fine. We need new leadership, and the defaults to come will give us a chance to get it. Immorality doesn’t come from hardships.

[John123]

Just wow man...

[umgud]

Sounds like a few lawyers need to be kneecapped. This is exactly the kind of thing that gic=ves them such a bad reputation.

[Kansas58]

Full and fair disclosure:

I SELL Long Term Care Insurance (as well as several other financial and investment products).

I believe that PA is a “partnership state” but I might be wrong. That would mean that the government would “hold harmless” for “Medicaid Estate Recovery” the dollar amount of any LTC policy.

Having said that, the folks who think the government will have a kinder heart than Aetna, Humana, Mutual of Omaha, Physicians Mutual, Coventry, Blue Cross etc are NUTS!

Type “Medicaid Estate Recovery” and the name of YOUR state into your browser. These folks are more ruthless than the IRS. They will seize the property of kids who inherit anything from a person who owes debts for Long Term Care or any other Medicaid bill!

The Medicaid Estate Recovery types BRAG about the money that they seize, from relatives! Yes, PA has some laws that allow them to do this, while Gramps is still alive, but the FEDS mandate that all states do this, when Gramps is DEAD! (only difference is the Federal rules only mandate recovery of inherited funds from the Medicaid beneficiary.) For this particular person, I would ask: Are you a Veteran? Did you serve during a declared War, as recognized by the VA?

If so, then there is a little known option called the “VA Pension” that might help, to the tune of about $1,800 a month.

[skipper18]

If he can be stuck with her running bad debt tab then cant he get power of attorney to stop this garbage?

That should give him a direct line to get it, the legal precedent of this law that he’s responsible for her financially.

[DB]

So in other words, she can refuse to pay whatever she likes and force her children to pay the tab... And there is nothing they can do to stop in the future as well? So if the son doesn’t pay does it pass to his children?

Insanity...

[rbbeachkid]

Well I guess I am alone in my reaction BUT...

I would rather they held the children responsible for their parents than hold me (completely unrelated) and all the other taxpayers liable and force us to pay for their upkeep. Let the families work it out between themselves.

[rabscuttle385]

“Filial responsibility” laws like the one in Pennsylvania are on the books in other states, just too.

“States with filial responsibility laws are: Alaska, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and West Virginia.”

http://everydaysimplicity.blogspot.com/2006/02/filial-responsibility-laws-list-of.html

[freedomwarrior998]

This isn't news... A lot of States have these laws.

http://www.dsl.psu.edu/faculty/pearson/FilialResponsibilityStatutes.pdf

[nathanbedford]

I know that New Jersey had a similar statute back in the 1960s but I do not know if it is still on the books. Even then I was taken aback upon reading it. If I recall correctly, the statutes also provided the right in the state to collect for welfare payments.

These statutes originated in the agrarian era when the family was anchored on the farm and the whole idea, for example, of intestate secession was grounded in an agrarian economy. For example, I have had farmers tell me that in the old days they used to draw a line down the middle of a barn and all the grain stored on one side belonged to the widowed mother and on the other side to the children. Her grain was her dower interest. In that context, it made sense for the kids who grew up and took over the farm to take care of the hospital bills for their parents just as their parents had taking care care of them.

One of the purposes of The Frankfurt School was to do away with the institutions which retarded the onset of communism. The founders identified the family as a bulwark against communism which must be destroyed. They set out to do that and they succeeded brilliantly. No-fault divorce, abortion on demand, the systematic attack and ridiculing of the father as an authority figure, all played a part in undoing the nuclear family as it had existed during the agrarian age. These communists were also greatly assisted by a technological revolution that moved people to the cities and generally spread them across the country away from the family farm. Perhaps more than any other factor the birth control pill contributed to the fracturing of the nuclear family. For one reason and another, the agrarian model no longer applies yet the statute lives on.

Rather than a reflection of the unity and cohesion of the nuclear family living on the farm, these statutes now constitute a direct threat to the survival of the family unit.

[denydenydeny]

Unlike wages, which can be garnisheed,

"Garnishee" as a verb is really an illiteracy.

[brityank]

Parasite Ping!

[True Republican Patriot]

Call OBOZO!He’ll fix it! OPPS! Grant is probably the wrong ethnic backround, so he is duilty until proven innocent!.......:-( Sotomayor will have NO empathy for him!

[apillar]

Well they already brought back one charming Elizabethan custom, debtors prisons, (for back child support), and nobody complained. So why not another? Maybe in the future we will return to the Elizabethan customs of the government forcing you into indentured servitude in some liberal public works project to pay off your grandfather debt to the national health care service.