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California IOUs can be considered securities, SEC says
Market Watch ^ | 07/09/09 | Ronald D. Orol

Posted on 07/12/2009 3:26:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

California IOUs can be considered securities, SEC says

Agency guidance helps create a secondary market for IOUs, helping with prices

By Ronald D. Orol, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The Securities and Exchange Commission late Thursday issued guidance identifying the IOUs being issued by California as "securities," rather than just obligations of the economically troubled state.

The Golden State issued the IOUs last week to conserve cash and pay off bondholders.

"The staff of the SEC has expressed its belief that California's recently issued IOUs are 'securities' under federal securities law. As such, holders of these IOUs and those who may purchase them are protected by the provisions of the federal securities laws that prohibit fraud in the purchase or sale of securities," the agency said.

The regulator is recommending that the IOUs, which carry an annual interest rate of 3.75%, be regulated as municipal debt, a form of security, by the Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board.

Identifying the IOUs as securities creates a regulated secondary market for them, which make it easier for their holders to sell them at a fair price.

Tom Dresslar, a spokesman for California State Treasurer Bill Lockyer, lauded the SEC's announcement, saying in a statement: "The SEC has sent a pretty clear warning to folks who plan to profit by buying and reselling IOUs: If you're not registered as a municipal securities broker-dealer, you run the risk of violating federal law."

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; california; iou; sec
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Some securities are honored by nobody, I guess.
1 posted on 07/12/2009 3:26:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/12/2009 3:27:17 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This makes it harder for a person with a $1 million IOU to sell it to you or me for $900,000. Illegal actgually.

This makes the situation worse.


3 posted on 07/12/2009 3:28:59 AM PDT by GeronL ( Patriotic Insurrectionist at http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hmmm....

So no California can print “securities” to pay its bills...

In the old days that was called defaulting on your debts...

But the Federal government doesn’t want anyone to notice that California has defaulted on its debt so they put up smoke and mirrors and try to continue the illusion that California is a-okay...


4 posted on 07/12/2009 3:32:02 AM PDT by DB
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To: TigerLikesRooster

But Mr. Obama can screw millions of General Motors and Chrysler shareholders and bondholders out of billions of dollars? Which way to the looking glass?


5 posted on 07/12/2009 3:32:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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To: DB
Well, California IOU is probably a test run for what Fed could do next year: to Chinese. :-) So they let this ‘experiment’ proceed and see how it fares. Won't fare well, IHMO, but they will try anyway.
6 posted on 07/12/2009 3:33:57 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe I could just print up some nifty IOU’s and go on a shopping spree. Or maybe.... I know, hire a new employee for my design company and pay him with IOU’s.

When money becomes worthless, then what are we going to use?


7 posted on 07/12/2009 3:36:14 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Calling garbage gold (even by the SEC) does not make it gold. But anything seems preferable to seeing and acting on the truth. CA must cut spending!
8 posted on 07/12/2009 3:41:42 AM PDT by Ironsman
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
"When money becomes worthless, then what are we going to use?"

"Gold! Just tell them that Gordon Liddy sent you!"

9 posted on 07/12/2009 3:42:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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“California IOU’s can be considered securities?”

Bananas, bananas, 39 cents a pound!

IMHO


10 posted on 07/12/2009 3:45:23 AM PDT by ripley
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To: DB

Or some insider will offer to purchase them for pennies on the dollar knowing the “next” CA gov will more then likely be able to raise taxes to pay them off.

Same ol’ Story in CA, two wolves and lamb looking at a menu..


11 posted on 07/12/2009 3:45:32 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“So no” was supposed to be “So now”... Sorry...


12 posted on 07/12/2009 3:45:35 AM PDT by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thats the thing I was seeing: if these ARE securities, CA could declare bankruptcy and make them go away like GM and Chrysler did to even their secured debt holders.

[Where are the lawsuits about that, btw???]


13 posted on 07/12/2009 3:45:47 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Next time you go to the bathroom STOP AND THINK! Do you really want to waste thousands of dollars in securities just to have a clean butt? :-)


14 posted on 07/12/2009 3:48:02 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The supremacy of finance capital over all other forms of capital means the predominance of the rentier and of the financial oligarchy; it means that a small number of financially “powerful” states stand out among all the rest. The extent to which this process is going on may be judged from the statistics on emissions, i.e., the issue of all kinds of securities. - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
15 posted on 07/12/2009 3:56:52 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for posting TLR. Disgusting.

These con-men are putting us in dire straits. We need to bang the drumsticks/clubs on their collectivist heads...(music to read this thread by)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpMqKSrr7Y


16 posted on 07/12/2009 4:04:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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I guess the next step wtill be Obama mandating that the banks accept the IOUs.


17 posted on 07/12/2009 4:06:26 AM PDT by AdaGray (uw)
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To: AdaGray
Not just banks, but everybody.
18 posted on 07/12/2009 4:07:57 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There's a difference?

19 posted on 07/12/2009 4:16:52 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

some might find this interesting:

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1201-SEC-Destroys-California.html

Now pay attention to this. The big banks are INSOLVENT.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1203-Stupidity-Bites-HARD-Dodd-and-Frank.html

Then there’s this:

http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/07/cit-prepares-to-file-bankruptcy.html

CIT as in Citibank.

Is it going to happen? Who knows. But the notion that is might be out there is plenty scary, don’t you think?

Nothing like having an economic nitwit, who is “set for life” in charge of the situation, gang.

He gets to play with the “house money.”


20 posted on 07/12/2009 4:21:54 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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