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Ships ending search for Air France black boxes
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| 2009-07-11
Posted on 07/11/2009 11:52:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Edited on 07/11/2009 11:56:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airbus; airfrance; flight447; planecrash
To: rabscuttle385
I guess we will never know what happened.
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posted on
07/11/2009 11:57:29 PM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
(A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
To: rabscuttle385
Frankly I would be surprised that “black boxes” are/would be designed to withstand such extreme water pressures. Any voids in sealed batteries and/or electronic packaging would be utterly crushed at the depths they think they are.
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:05:35 AM PDT
by
DB
To: DB
Even if they did, the batteries on the pingers are only good for a month.
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:06:55 AM PDT
by
null and void
(We are now in day 173 of our national holiday from reality.)
To: DB
You’d think they could design them to float, not to sink.
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:08:21 AM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
To: DB
Frankly I would be surprised that black boxes are/would be designed to withstand such extreme water pressures. Any voids in sealed batteries and/or electronic packaging would be utterly crushed at the depths they think they are.Well, one of the black boxes from South African Airways Flight 295 was recovered at 16,000 feet back in the '80s.
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:09:45 AM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
To: fieldmarshaldj
They are likely still attached to part of the plane through wires etc. So it would be hard to make them float I would think.
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:10:37 AM PDT
by
DB
To: sonofstrangelove
must be a conspirascy
*runs away with all of the tin foil*
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:11:14 AM PDT
by
GeronL
( Patriotic Insurrectionist at http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
To: rabscuttle385
Did they find it due to the internal pinger or did they find part of the plane it was attached to because they knew where it went down?
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:12:50 AM PDT
by
DB
To: rabscuttle385
I just found this regarding flight 295:
“The pingers in the flight data recorders were not designed for deep ocean use, and could therefore also not be used to locate the wreckage.”
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:16:09 AM PDT
by
DB
To: null and void
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:19:06 AM PDT
by
myknowledge
(F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
To: GeronL
The place where those black boxes were situated it was impossible to reach. What I understand it was in some deep canyon.That is why the FAA needs to mandate that all black boxes on trans oceanic flights should be equipped with floatation device.Many military aircraft are already equipped with ejectable/deployable flight data recorders and recovery beacons designed to float indefinitely
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:37:00 AM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
(A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
To: sonofstrangelove
I’m waiting for the analysis from Pierre Salinger.
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:50:46 AM PDT
by
Bernard
(If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
To: Bernard
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posted on
07/12/2009 12:53:58 AM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
(A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
To: sonofstrangelove
If we can hear the box ping, the box could hear us ping too, if it were so designed. There ought to be a way of downloading at least an abridged version of its contents through a sonic link if it cannot be physically retrieved.
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posted on
07/12/2009 1:22:33 AM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
To: HiTech RedNeck
That still will not work if the flight data recorder. I propose two methods 1)That the flight data recorders be equipped with flotation devices 2)The data from the plane is streamed real time to a computer at headquarters where they are recorded.
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:00:36 AM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
(A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s not a stretch to just add the voice and plane control movements to the telemetry stream to the home office/computer. A few data relay satellites and you have world wide coverage.
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:09:34 AM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
(A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
To: fieldmarshaldj
When I worked on the C-5A's years ago they had a system that was intended to jettison the voice and data recorders. I also believe the records were buoyant. However many recorders were inadvertently lost and I believe a conventional system has since been installed.
A better solution would be to transmit the data real time to a ground location and use on board records as only a back up. Many modern aircraft already relay a great deal of information for maintenance purposes.
To: Red Dog #1
"A better solution would be to transmit the data real time to a ground location and use on board records as only a back up."
Yes, indeed. That sounds like the most sensible alternative.
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:23:32 PM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
To: Red Dog #1
I agree data real time to a ground location is the best alternative
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:48:04 PM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
(A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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