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Mythbusters show not allowed to do anything on RFID
Youtube.com ^ | Adam Savage Mythbusters

Posted on 07/11/2009 6:03:57 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant

Mythbusters guys not allowed to demonstrate what the RFID chips are doing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: globalism; mythbusters; rfid; tracking
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1 posted on 07/11/2009 6:03:57 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant

That’s interesting.


2 posted on 07/11/2009 6:04:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Crimson Elephant
If they can't blow it up, I wouldn't watch anyway.
3 posted on 07/11/2009 6:06:56 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Interesting.


4 posted on 07/11/2009 6:07:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: Crimson Elephant
RFID specs are available on the internet. Lots of them. That's the nice thing about specifications, there are so many to choose from. ;)

/johnny

5 posted on 07/11/2009 6:08:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

BUMP!
Good find.


6 posted on 07/11/2009 6:08:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Crimson Elephant

RFID ain’t rocket science. All it is at its heart is using EM radiative power to induce energy into a system, and then the system turns around and gives a coded reply.

That it happens with very low voltages isn’t such a big thing, it’s that things are being put together in volume, repeatability, and with supporting infrastructures. All of those put together make it the powerful solution or scary situation that RFID is.


7 posted on 07/11/2009 6:11:46 PM PDT by Yossarian (DRAFT BARBOUR 2012!)
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To: Crimson Elephant

That’s actually kinda’ scary.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 6:13:26 PM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Credit card companies wouldn’t let them... why not?


9 posted on 07/11/2009 6:18:07 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Yossarian
Finally! Someone who understands what absorption modulation is!

;^)

10 posted on 07/11/2009 6:19:20 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (The chair is against the wall. John has a long mustache.)
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To: Crimson Elephant
Uh, oh.

Just got my RFID “ORCA Card” yesterday.

It's an all-in-one, self-debiting, self-funding pass card for all public transportation in the Seattle metro area.

I even get an instant online record of every transaction.

If my funding Visa Card suddenly goes nuclear, I'll know where the security breach came from.

11 posted on 07/11/2009 6:19:33 PM PDT by zeestephen
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2071789/posts


12 posted on 07/11/2009 6:20:07 PM PDT by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market ..." --Jorge "the Oxy Moron" Bush)
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To: Crimson Elephant

I have often wondered why someone couldn’t just capture credit card data from a credit card with a chip; simply by just walking closely to someone.
They would just need the thing that reads the chip in the credit card in their hand.


13 posted on 07/11/2009 6:22:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: Crimson Elephant
If RFID chips were hacked, companies that use them could face serious inventory control management problems.

Of course with all new technology, it's a conspiracy to control our lives. < / s>

14 posted on 07/11/2009 6:28:18 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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They can and they do. I have read articles about how someone could stand behind you in line and read your cards in your wallet or purse if they have chips. Very scary indeed.
15 posted on 07/11/2009 6:28:54 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: Crimson Elephant; All
See this link for what they would have done if they could on Myth Busters. The internet rules!

See what RFID tags can do!!!!

16 posted on 07/11/2009 6:38:57 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Principled
Credit card companies wouldn’t let them... why not?

Basically, the data (Name, account number, etc.) is not encrypted and it's easy for a third party to query the card without physical contact. They can extract the info while it's still in your wallet.

17 posted on 07/11/2009 6:40:23 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: guitarplayer1953

I remember reading about a case in Europe where someone was able to insert a credit card shaped device into an ATM slot and capture the information of whoever had just used the ATM.
It sounds a little farfetched to me unless the ATM had kept that information in memory which I don’t believe they do.


18 posted on 07/11/2009 6:42:39 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: Crimson Elephant

That’s weak. The credit card companies are content to depend on security through obscurity. Mythbusters or not, the details of how the system works will get into the hands of the bad guys. The card companies will suffer losses as a result, but these are built into the overall business model and will amount to only a few basis points.

What they should do is junk the cards and build a payment system that will run in your mobile handset. To make a payment, you would establish a three-way conversation between your handset, the bank, and the merchant, with the merchant’s POS terminal providing connectivity to your handset via Bluetooth and to the bank over the internet. Everything between your handset and the bank would be encrypted, so that the merchant’s POS would carry it but be unable to read it. To guard against lost or stolen phones, your account details would be stored encrypted in the handset, and you would supply a key to enable the payment process.


19 posted on 07/11/2009 6:43:10 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Dumpster Baby

“Finally! Someone who understands what absorption modulation is!”

Yes, it is a very deep and dark mystery and only a few are chosen to receive the gift of understanding. Thank God that we are among the chosen few! Remember the sacred blood oath that we took, and do not violate it!


20 posted on 07/11/2009 6:45:13 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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