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India gay sex ruling: Protection, not acceptance
Agence France-Presse ^ | 11 July, 2009 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 07/11/2009 5:23:35 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins

NEW DELHI (AFP) — For India's gay community, the joy that greeted this month's court ruling legalising gay sex is tempered by the fact that, although the law now accepts them, society still does not.

For all the celebrations and talk of an historic milestone, many believe it will take more than a court decision to change public attitudes toward homosexuality, which is largely taboo in India and considered by many to be a mental illness.

Although the Delhi High Court's verdict has served as a morale booster for men and women who lived in constant fear of being criminalised, they say it is unlikely to encourage those in the closet to come out.

"I don't think it will make a major impact," says Maya, 32, who runs a counselling centre for lesbians and people with gender identity issues.

"I'm sure some people who were afraid of the legal implications are more comfortable now, but there are still so many social issues.

"The major issues are how you're going to tell your family -- it has nothing to do with the law," she said.

Abhi's parents took him to a psychiatrist when he came out to them two years ago. They eventually came to terms with his sexual orientation, but the 22-year-old call centre employee believes it will take generations for India to tolerate, let alone embrace homosexuality, on a wider scale.

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In staunchly conservative India, where heterosexual marriage is viewed as a cornerstone of family structure, the thought of a same-sex couple raising a child once seemed unthinkable.

"I'm emboldened by the fact that I can look forward to marrying my boyfriend," says Rahul.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gays; homosexualagenda; india; lesbians

1 posted on 07/11/2009 5:23:35 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins
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  • Aggressive gay evangelism

     

    Swapan Das Gupta

     

    The Pioneer

    July 5, 2009

     

    In 1965, when the House of Lords debated the proposal to legalise homosexual relations between consenting adults, the legendary Field Marshal Montgomery proposed a curious amendment. Incensed over what he called “this most abominable bestiality”, he argued the age of consent should be raised to 80!

    It is entirely possible that this very original suggestion may find takers among MPs and religious figures agitated by the Delhi High Court’s judgement to de-criminalise gay sex between consenting adults over the age of 21. That the private conduct of two responsible adults should not be the business of the state — unless it jeopardises national security and public health or constitutes a fraud — has long been recognised as a tenet of personal freedom. Carnal relations involving the same sex may well be against the laws of nature and, therefore, ‘unnatural’. But there is nothing in the act that corresponds to the common sense definition of criminality. If voluntary gay sex is deemed criminal, the law may as well attach the tag of criminality to adultery — a move that could result in considerable discomfiture to some of those who are most indignant about the High Court decision.

    If the High Court had confined its judgement to merely removing the stigma of criminality attached to queers (oh how this innocent word has been tarred), it would have done its bit to ensure that laws keep pace with changing social mores. Unfortunately, the High Court went a bit over the top. It was bad enough to inject BR Ambedkar, Jawaharlal Nehru and the Sonia Gandhi doctrine of inclusiveness into the pantheon of gay rights, what was more ominous was the incorporation of minority sexual habits into the notion of equality.

    It is one thing to accommodate gay sexual preferences into a loose framework of individual freedom so that a minusculity is spared needless harassment, it is a different matter to establish a moral equivalence between same-sex relationships and man-woman relationships. The judges may not have intended to put them on par but that is the unintended consequence of pitting an arcane clause of the IPC against some of the fundamental rights in the Constitution. If the contentious part of Section 377 violates the Constitution, as the High Court has decided, why was it allowed to remain in the statutes for a full 59 years? Like the classification of some communities as ‘criminal tribes’, why wasn’t it junked earlier? If the inspiration for Section 377 was Victorian morality, why wasn’t it re-examined after the passage of the Sexual Offences Act of 1967 in Britain?

    The High Court need not have undertaken surgery with general anaesthesia to remove a tiny wart in our laws. The reason why 377 persisted for so long owed partly to the colonial inheritance. But far more important, it found a place in the statutes because it corresponded to an unspoken social definition of ordinary decencies. This perception has changed over time, just as polygamy and child marriage have been outlawed for most communities, the age of consent raised progressively and the law of primogeniture scrapped. Legal strictures against consensual adult homosexuality had to go because it was perceived as unjust and unfair.

    This is not to suggest that homosexuality is now kosher. The opposition to the High Court judgement from all religious groups indicates that same-sex relationships may be tolerated but they have no wider social sanction. The judgement has merely defined gays as a distinct minority group defined by their sexual preferences.

    To my mind this is fair. There is absolutely no reason why decent individuals such as the writer Vikram Seth — who has spoken about his gayness with sensitivity — should have the threat of criminality dangling before him for something that is clearly a very private emotion. No one wants a repetition of the disagreeable witch-hunt of Oscar Wilde in the 21st century and no one wants rabid homophobic utterances which characterise President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. Gays have the right to live their life with dignity and without the fear of persecution.

    Unfortunately, the High Court judgement has opened the floodgates of what may best be called aggressive gay evangelism. If the experience of the West is anything to go by, it is a matter of time before there are demands — backed by the usual clutch of NGOs and international agencies — to lower the age of consent, accommodate gay marriages within a legal framework and allow the right of adoption to gay couples. In Britain, for example, the age of consent for voluntary homosexuality was 21 at the time of the Sexual Offences Act of 1967; by 2000, this was lowered to 16 despite the fierce opposition of the House of Lords and the Christian churches; now there are demands for legalising gay marriages and altering the school curricula to show that man-woman relations are not the natural order of society.

    Equally insidious, militant gay campaigners have made life impossible for those gays who want to lead private lives without ‘coming out’ and flaunting their sexuality. In 1974, the Gay Liberation Front ‘outed’ EM Forster and denounced him as a “downcast gay” for keeping his sexual preferences private. A perverse in-your-face-gayness has come to define gay activism.

    The invocation of equality and the principles of non-discrimination are a double-edged sword. What may begin as an innocent gesture of accommodation and tolerance has the potential to spin out of control. The gesture of de-criminalising homosexuality — which is different from endorsing it — has to be accompanied by a robust assertion of the state and society’s commitment to family values. Unless, of course, we see the recognition of gay rights as a precursor to a gender-neutral, non-denominational, secular, uniform civil code — just as the Constitution-makers desired.

     


2 posted on 07/11/2009 5:24:40 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

From my personal observation, half of India’s population is surviving on sticks and dirt. They need to figure out how to create a vibrant economy and provide their massive numbers of poor a sustenance living, and not be concerned about what a bunch of chronically unhappy people with a psycho-sexual developmental disorder think are their “rights”.


3 posted on 07/11/2009 5:28:12 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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That’s right.

Maybe it would attract bamboo pole armed mobs of homophobes toward those ‘gay people’ and engage in public wallopings.


4 posted on 07/11/2009 5:32:23 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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you mean like they do in mooselimb countries?


5 posted on 07/11/2009 5:52:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Patrick)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
For India's gay community, the joy that greeted this month's court ruling legalising gay sex is tempered by the fact that, although the law now accepts them, society still does not.

Silly society. Didn't the Gaystapo let you know that what is not forbidden shall be mandatory?

6 posted on 07/11/2009 9:31:53 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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