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To: kingpins10
Saying that 300 million is too high of a population for America is an arbitrary judgement.

Ever been to China or Japan? I have and it sucks. I'd hate to live in the crowded conditions they live in. There isn't hardly anywhere you can go and get off by yourself. It's a miserable existence.

You can have it. I like having open spaces with forests and wildlife in abundance. I don't want to see our wild lands overrun and despoiled. Maybe you like that existence but most American despise it. Go spend some time in Tokyo and see what it's like. Then come back and tell me that the earth can sustain many more that the current population.

Have you been to a seafood market lately. The price of fish is INSANE. This is because the Nations are overfishing trying to satisfy the worldwide demand for protein. As a kid fish was cheap or at least reasonable. Now it's outrageous. So where is the food or clean water going to come from to support all these millions more that you look forward to? How are you going to house them? What about Clean Water? I don't think you have given this much thought. You must be reading some of the neoconservative literature from a crackpot like Ben Wattenburg or one of his followers.
38 posted on 07/10/2009 10:51:32 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy

One of the biggest problems Japan, South Korea and many European countries face right now is declining population. Societies and economies crumble without population growth, because the ratio of elderly to young people gets out of balance.

In Australia, the Czech Republic, Lithuania and Singapore, the government pays a baby bonus to increase fertility rates.

Korea to Become Most Aged Society in OECD in 2050
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/07/123_48264.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Bonus


51 posted on 07/10/2009 11:27:12 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: truthguy
"Ever been to China...?"

No, but if we continue the current transformation into the United State of Tyranny, then I might consider moving there for the relative political freedom.

"I like having open spaces..."

I'll have to admit, your rant makes me a bit nervous. I think I'd feel better too with you on the nice quiet, spacious south pole.

59 posted on 07/11/2009 12:29:13 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: truthguy

Tokyo is not the entire planet. Over-population is a myth. In fact, the population is declining and that will cause real problems in the future.

Since God is in control of all things, the fate of the planet is not in our hands anyway. Yes, we are to be good stewards of what He has given us, but the future belongs to Him, not us.


92 posted on 07/11/2009 7:18:33 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: truthguy
What about Clean Water?

Clean water is the least of the problems this world has. The oceans are full of it and if the leaders of countries bordering the ocean would simply build nuke desalinization plants, no one would ever have to worry about water. Nor is food a problem. When I was a teen in he 1950s, we were told the world would run out of food about 1980. We didn't. We simply grew more. One reason food prices are so high, including fish, is government regulation. Production is down due to government regulation, now and pending. CA is going to shut off water to farmers this summer so that a smelt can live, yep a smelt, humans can die but smelt should live.

Our problem isn't excess population in this country and the world, it is excess government.

That is the only problem I have with excess population, it makes it more difficult to keep government in check.

103 posted on 07/11/2009 8:22:00 AM PDT by calex59
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To: truthguy
What about Clean Water?

Clean water is the least of the problems this world has. The oceans are full of it and if the leaders of countries bordering the ocean would simply build nuke desalinization plants, no one would ever have to worry about water. Nor is food a problem. When I was a teen in he 1950s, we were told the world would run out of food about 1980. We didn't. We simply grew more. One reason food prices are so high, including fish, is government regulation. Production is down due to government regulation, now and pending. CA is going to shut off water to farmers this summer so that a smelt can live, yep a smelt, humans can die but smelt should live.

Our problem isn't excess population in this country and the world, it is excess government.

That is the only problem I have with excess population, it makes it more difficult to keep government in check.

104 posted on 07/11/2009 8:22:16 AM PDT by calex59
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To: truthguy
While I understand your reaction to having traveled in the overpopulated far East, it never fails to amaze me that men always arrive at the idea of killing babies instead of the idea of spreading an ethic of male chastity before marriage, sexual continence within marriage and responsibility for their own reproductive choices on a shrinking planet.

Instead, it's unlimited free rides for males, and sterilization for the females, aborting their pregnancies by force, seizing their newborns, etc.

136 posted on 07/11/2009 10:16:49 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If ten percent is good enough for Jesus, it ought to be good enough for Uncle Sam. --Ray Stevens)
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To: truthguy; kingpins10
Go spend some time in Tokyo and see what it's like.

Have, loved it, would move back in a flash.

Your posts are your opinions, which you are welcome to.

137 posted on 07/11/2009 10:17:56 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: truthguy

Nope. I just buy and read books offering all points of view. And the ‘consensus’ among liberals is we are all gonna die soon if we don’t do something about the population problem. They have been repeating that same mantra since the ‘60’s.


142 posted on 07/11/2009 10:44:43 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: truthguy

Please don’t blow smoke in my face.


162 posted on 07/11/2009 12:15:50 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: truthguy

China and Japan have plenty of open space just not in the cities - poor urban planning does not mean that the earth cannot support more people. USA, Canada have so much open space and the tech boom in foods means that there is no problem feeding everyone on the planet many times over - don’t believe the lies!

Mel


208 posted on 07/11/2009 11:25:48 PM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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