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1 posted on 07/10/2009 5:01:42 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Crazieman

As radio host Jim Quinn and Radio Rose always say about new of this sort:

“The Second Amendment, reset button for the Constitution.”


2 posted on 07/10/2009 5:05:15 PM PDT by sneakin (Remember, always pillage BEFORE you burn.)
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To: rabscuttle385; Nachum; pissant

Ping


3 posted on 07/10/2009 5:07:04 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: bamahead; traviskicks

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4 posted on 07/10/2009 5:08:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Crazieman

You know, I will be sad to be locked up but it will be nice to finally meet all of you FReepers.


5 posted on 07/10/2009 5:13:04 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Rep. Alcee Hastings -- the impeached Florida judge Nancy Pelosi tried to install as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee until her own party members rebelled -- introduced an amendment to the defense authorization bill that gives Attorney General Eric Holder sole discretion to label groups that oppose government policy on guns, abortion, immigration, states' rights, or a host of other issues. In a June 25 speech on the House floor, Rep. Trent Franks, R-AZ, blasted the idea: "This sounds an alarm for many of us because of the recent shocking and offensive report released by the Department of Homeland Security which labeled, arguably, a majority of Americans as 'extremists.'"

Another Hastings bill (HR 645) authorizes $360 million in 2009 and 2010 to set up "not fewer than six national emergency centers on military installations" capable of housing "a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster." But Section 2 (b) 4 allows the Secretary of Homeland Security to use the camps "to meet other appropriate needs" -- none of which are specified. This is the kind of blank check that Congress should never, ever sign.

7 posted on 07/10/2009 5:18:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Rep. Alcee Hastings ... introduced an amendment to the defense authorization bill that gives Attorney General Eric Holder sole discretion to label groups that oppose government policy on guns, abortion, immigration, states’ rights, or a host of other issues.



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8 posted on 07/10/2009 5:22:58 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Crazieman

The cyberbullying law would be great. Sarah Palin alone have the entire state-run media, most of congress, and all of their staffers put in prison.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 5:32:12 PM PDT by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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To: Crazieman

If this is the same Linda Chavez who is a Rep from So Calif- she is the one who got lots of illigal voters and ousted B-1 (?) Bomber supporter Bob Dornan.

Her election was a forerunner of the Nov 2008 election of NObama. It was seriously tainted.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 5:34:44 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Crazieman

If this is the same Linda Chavez who is a Rep from So Calif- she is the one who got lots of illegal voters and ousted B-1 (?) Bomber supporter Bob Dornan.

Her election was a forerunner of the Nov 2008 election of NObama. It was seriously tainted.


11 posted on 07/10/2009 5:35:35 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Crazieman

So that’s why R’s are afraid of TOTUS.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 5:40:25 PM PDT by PGalt
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Hope you don’t mind me going ahead and using the CWII list, JB, but this seemed like a no-brainer for a ping.


33 posted on 07/10/2009 7:49:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Crazieman

I’ve read those laws too, and believe they are - as far as the Leftist mindset operates - poorly worded solutions driven by good, if flawed, intentions consistent with the general mindset of some half of this nation. Ergo, I do not believe these are being implemented with malicious intent.

However ... these laws are grossly beyond powers clearly delegated, and limited, by the Constitution. These laws, albeit well-intentioned, are so profoundly broad as to impart downright totalitarian powers to individuals. They are not totally flagrant in their allowance, but are so close to despotic that lawyers will be bickering endlessly about what is permitted while victims of these laws rot in prison or lose all they have. They go too far, by far.

I don’t know how to oppose such reaches toward tyranny. Nothing wrong has been done. These laws will go on the books, and stay there, and be used, until concrete cases with victims of clear standing can organize a legal defense - at which point it will be too late.


34 posted on 07/10/2009 8:38:42 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Crazieman

It won’t be long before the killing starts.


37 posted on 07/10/2009 9:18:05 PM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Crazieman

still waiting for domestic terrorism to start showing up, it hasn’t yet. Nothing to the power grid or organized political movement, heck I haven’t even seen spray paint on over passes that would indicate anything wrong. The tea parties are a failure if they don’t move one man to action.


38 posted on 07/10/2009 9:28:30 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Crazieman
Would Congress ever pass legislation that would allow the executive to determine at its own discretion whether political opponents had crossed the line into domestic terrorists and build camps in which to keep them? Sounds like something out of 20th-century totalitarian systems or dystopian fiction.

Do a little research about “Progressive” Woodrow Wilson an his political prisoners. This is nothing new.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0205/p09s01-coop.htm

43 posted on 07/11/2009 3:41:37 AM PDT by Jackson Brown
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To: Crazieman

I know that they will come for me someday ...


48 posted on 07/11/2009 10:19:58 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: Crazieman
If we are all in prison, who is going to pay the taxes that Hastings' constituents need for their gubmint handouts?
51 posted on 07/11/2009 2:41:58 PM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: Crazieman
Holder could be the greatest AG in the history of the US but still should not have the absolute authority to make that designation, especially after the track record of the DHS in using vague parameters and broad-based smears of legitimate political protest earlier this year.

Pardon me but no one in Government has that authority, neither individually nor as part of a committee, panel, commission or whatever. To even think for a minute that the act of disagreeing with the policies of an administration is criminal, is in and of itself a violation of the Oath of Office that every Congressman, Senator and elected official swears before taking that office. Hastings and anyone that agrees with him should be forced to resign immediately and stripped of every privilege of their office.

52 posted on 07/11/2009 2:51:49 PM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: Crazieman

Twilight of the age.

Loose lips sink ships.


57 posted on 07/14/2009 6:03:16 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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