What is in the Health Care proposal

Free Republic ^ | 07102009 | Loud Mime

[Loud Mime]

I was looking through the Health Care Bill and found this; do you think our government can afford to do all this?

(a) In General- All individuals residing in the United States (including any territory of the United States) are covered under the USNHC Program entitling them to a universal, best quality standard of care. Each such individual shall receive a card with a unique number in the mail. An individual's social security number shall not be used for purposes of registration under this section.

(b) Registration- Individuals and families shall receive a United States National Health Insurance Card in the mail, after filling out a United States National Health Insurance application form at a health care provider. Such application form shall be no more than 2 pages long.

(c) Presumption- Individuals who present themselves for covered services from a participating provider shall be presumed to be eligible for benefits under this Act, but shall complete an application for benefits in order to receive a United States National Health Insurance Card and have payment made for such benefits.

(d) Residency Criteria- The Secretary shall promulgate a rule that provides criteria for determining residency for eligibility purposes under the USNHC Program.

(e) Coverage for Visitors- The Secretary shall promulgate a rule regarding visitors from other countries who seek premeditated non-emergency surgical procedures. Such a rule should facilitate the establishment of country-to-country reimbursement arrangements or self pay arrangements between the visitor and the provider of care.

The care includes “at least the following:
(1) Primary care and prevention.
(2) Inpatient care.
(3) Outpatient care.
(4) Emergency care.
(5) Prescription drugs.
(6) Durable medical equipment.
(7) Long-term care.
(8) Palliative care.
(9) Mental health services.
(10) The full scope of dental services (other than cosmetic dentistry).
(11) Substance abuse treatment services.
(12) Chiropractic services.
(13) Basic vision care and vision correction (other than laser vision correction for cosmetic purposes).
(14) Hearing services, including coverage of hearing aids.
(15) Podiatric care.”

Also is this beauty:

SEC. 104. PROHIBITION AGAINST DUPLICATING COVERAGE.

(a) In General- It is unlawful for a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act.

(b) Construction- Nothing in this Act shall be construed as prohibiting the sale of health insurance coverage for any additional benefits not covered by this Act, such as for cosmetic surgery or other services and items that are not medically necessary.

SOURCE

[Loud Mime]

Notice that the health care is for residents of the US, not just CITIZENS!

[muawiyah]

So here's a gold plated risky scheme and the Democrats actually want us to believe they're going to send Mexico a bill for services rendered their citizens.

[freekitty]

They tried this before. Remember the HMOs of the 80’s. You couldn’t get into see a doctor if your life depended on it and they started turning you away because they had to many patients.

Besides this bill isn’t about health. It’s about the destruction of America and its people. Just like the cap and trade.

[bruinbirdman]

SEC. 305. NATIONAL BOARD OF UNIVERSAL QUALITY AND ACCESS.

. . .

(3) ESTABLISHMENT OF UNIVERSAL, BEST QUALITY STANDARD OF CARE- The Board shall specifically establish a universal, best quality of standard of care with respect to--

(A) appropriate staffing levels;

(B) appropriate medical technology;

(C) design and scope of work in the health workplace;

(D) best practices; and

(E) salary level and working conditions of physicians, clinicians, nurses, other medical professionals, and appropriate support staff.

yitbos

[3catsanadog]

Whoa Nelly! Re line in bold - am I correct in interpreting this as salaries would not be determined by, for instance, the hospital one works for, but by some Washington bureaucrats?

[Secret Agent Man]

AS I have been saying all day and the last two weeks,

this is how illegal immigrants are going to get US citizens to pay for their health care.

La Raza has had meetings discussing this, and has told people at these meetings to put call and pressure on Congress to pass it because they have been told by the Obama administration this will be how Obama gives illegals health care coverage.

Obama strongarmed the hospital groups to sign on because illegals will be billable as they will have official govt health care coverage as opposed to not paying anything.

But we all still wind up paying for them.

Let your senators know this is how Obama plans to give 20 million uninsured illegal aliens healthcare coverage under our noses.

[oldmomster]

“(E) salary level and working conditions of physicians, clinicians, nurses, other medical professionals, and appropriate support staff.”

So these lawyers pass all these schemes (cap and tax, bailouts) letting congress steal as much of our money as they can haul away, and they want to decide doctors’s (the guys who actually do something for you) salaries?

Lawyers writing bills that make it legal to steal from doctors and nurses.

Wonder where they’ll be issuing medical degrees from in the future - medical programs will be big losers - cause no one is gonna spend all those years studying/working to make what they pay in the Veterans Administration hospitals!!!!!!

[3catsanadog]

I wanted to see this but I don’t see any of what you had listed when I went to the Source you provided.

[Loud Mime]

You’re right, the source code is not working.

a. go to http://thomas.loc.gov
b. enter in the search box HR 676, click the bill number bullet box.
c. click “search”
d. click the center box “Text of Legislation”
e. click “printer friendly”

[3catsanadog]

Thank you! Will do.

[Don Corleone]

In General- It is unlawful for a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act.

My understanding of the written word is not too good. What does this mean???

[DugwayDuke]

I wouldn’t get at all excited about this. It’s just another bill submitted by John Conyers and has all the chances of passing as any of the bills he introduces. The real health care ‘reform’ bill is being prepared by Charley Rangel.

[bruinbirdman]

Whoa. . . am I correct in interpreting this as salaries would not be determined by, for instance, the hospital one works for, but by some Washington bureaucrats?

I believe that's what "Establishment of universal . . ." means.

yitbos

[bruinbirdman]

"So these lawyers pass all these schemes (cap and tax, bailouts) letting congress steal as much of our money as they can haul away, and they want to decide doctors’s (the guys who actually do something for you) salaries?"

Right out of the UK National Health Service handbook. Or is that Cuba's? Or the USSR?

And the UK pay structure is horrible and will get worse once it comes under the EUrotopian mandates.

yitbos

[Loud Mime]

The word to focus on is “insurance.” They will not be able to sell insurance, but a sector of the private market system will still be active.....I hope.

I have heard (on some radio show) that pay-cash-in-advance practices are making progress. No insurance secretaries and no billing, causing the costs of health care to drop accordingly.

Our current care system has placed too many persons between the doctor and the patient. As the payment goes from one hand to another, each takes their “service charge.” Some may make more than the doctor. This, along with the abuses waged by the trial lawyers, has to stop.

[Loud Mime]

Thanks for the heads-up. The current list of his legislative proposals is pathetic.