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Baucus Plan Includes Heavy Taxes on Health Benefits, Capital Gains, Soda, Pharma, Income, and More
Politico ^ | 7/9/09 | CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN & DAVID ROGERS

Posted on 07/10/2009 11:55:16 AM PDT by myrage

Politico has gotten ahold of a list of taxes Max Baucus supports to fund taking over healthcare. Here they are:

— Broaden the 1.45-percent Medicare tax on earned income to “passive income,” which could include money from capital gains, rental properties and businesses that do not require direct participation. This could raise $100 billion.

— Levy a five-percent surtax on individuals who earn more than $500,000 and couples that make $1 million.

— Tax health benefits at a higher level than had been considered. Two scenarios are in play. Taxing plans worth more than $20,300 for a family and $8,300 for an individual could raise $240 billion. Increasing the cut-off to plans worth more than $25,000 would bring $90 billion.

— Capping the tax break on itemized deductions at 28 percent, as President Barack Obama had proposed, or freezing the top deduction rate at 35 percent when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010. The first scenario would raise $168 billion, while the second would collect $90 billion.

— Issue tax credit bonds to pay for the proposed Medicaid expansion, raising $75 billion.

— Charge fees to pharmaceutical manufacturers, bringing in as much as $20 billion, and insurance providers.

-- Raise taxes on sodas and sugary drinks. A 3-cent hike could pick up $30 billion, and a 10-cent hike could make $100 billion. This one already appears out of favor: Many senators have specifically ruled out the sugar tax, and a Senate Democratic source said it was the one option that was clearly not gaining traction with committee members.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24752.html#ixzz0Kskz5IpY&D


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; maxbaucus; obamacare; taxes
Even with all these taxes, they're not gonna be able to afford good coverage, and, moreover, they aren't even going to find enough legislative support to get most of these passed. For the Democrats, it's give, give, give, but never make any sacrifices.
1 posted on 07/10/2009 11:55:17 AM PDT by myrage
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To: myrage

Max- you’re not done. There’s still a nickel in the bottom of my purse.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 11:56:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: silverleaf

New name for this ahole. “Taxus Max-imus”


3 posted on 07/10/2009 11:57:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: myrage

All the billions that taxing health benefits will “earn” would be short lived - when the buyers of said health care go to the gov’t forced care.

If those policies don’t exist, then the revenue from taxing them wouldn’t exist either.

Not that there are a zillion things wrong with the plan, this particular detail just jumped at me when I read the list.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 11:59:16 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: myrage
Even with all these taxes, they're not gonna be able to afford good coverage, and, moreover, they aren't even going to find enough legislative support to get most of these passed. For the Democrats, it's give, give, give, but never make any sacrifices.

You don't seem to get it.

Democrats only want complete socialized medicine.....this is a route to get them there.

5 posted on 07/10/2009 12:00:14 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: silverleaf

“We want the purse too!”


6 posted on 07/10/2009 12:01:28 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: myrage

[Raise taxes on sodas and sugary drinks. A 3-cent hike could pick up $30 billion, and a 10-cent hike could make $100 billion.]

Therefore a dollar tax would raise one trillion. Healthcare problem solved.

Raise it to $10 a bottle, that brings in $10 Trillion and the deficit is solved.

See, so simple ye naysayers. I’m a genius!


7 posted on 07/10/2009 12:02:52 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: myrage

b.bb...b.bbbb...bbut.....I distinctly heard Obama say we would get FREE healthcare.....


8 posted on 07/10/2009 12:03:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FastCoyote

Tax text messages


9 posted on 07/10/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Principled
I have money that says that the congress critters will keep the same health coverage as they do now. The new plan is only for the folks.
10 posted on 07/10/2009 12:13:34 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ANGGAPO

They’ve said as much ANGGAPO. They will not be subject to the new health-care.


11 posted on 07/10/2009 12:16:51 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: myrage

Surprisingly Baucus hasn’t yet come up with the idea of levying a special surcharge on drugs developed for “orphan drugs” ~ the idea being that so few people use these drugs, and their cost is so high, they should and must bear a far higher “fair share” of total costs.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 12:30:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Principled
Why am I not surprised.
13 posted on 07/10/2009 12:36:52 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: myrage

We are going to reduce the quality of health care and increase the costs. Medicare and Medicaid are failures reprsenting close to $40 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Destroying private insurance will just give us another Medicare system covering everyone.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 1:04:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: myrage
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Keep it up, you taxing tyrants. At some point, you may find yourselves fearing for your lives.

FMCDH(BITS)

15 posted on 07/10/2009 3:00:26 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


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17 posted on 07/11/2009 12:29:22 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: FastCoyote
Hell, let's just get it over with and tax all income at 100%! Imagine (key the Lennon theme song! or should I write Lenin?) how wonderful it will be when everyone is getting what they need when they need it.


18 posted on 07/11/2009 12:36:58 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: ANGGAPO

And it won’t be taxed as income.


19 posted on 07/11/2009 1:13:25 PM PDT by Lorianne
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