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Pope gives Obama 'unannounced' gift: Vatican document on right to life and bioethics
cna ^ | July 10, 2009

Posted on 07/10/2009 9:56:50 AM PDT by NYer

Vatican City, Jul 10, 2009 / 11:37 am (CNA).- Pope Benedict XVI received President Barack Obama this afternoon in his private library, and after 36 minutes of private conversation, the pair emerged without providing any details about their topics of conversation. Nevertheless, the Holy See revealed that the Pope gave Obama an “unannounced gift”--a Vatican document on bioethics and the right to life.

"The G8 has been very productive, 20 billion dollars have been allocated [to poor countries]; that's something concrete," President Obama told the Pope when he asked about the summit, as photographers and journalists were ushered out of the Papal library.

The meeting between the Pope and the U.S. President started at 4:25 p.m. local time, after an unusually short meeting of ten minutes with the Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone.

After the private conversation, and again in front of the cameras, President Obama gave the Pontiff a stole that was drapped upon the body of St. John Neumann from 1988 to 2007. The Pope instead presented the president with a mosaic portraying St. Peter's Square and the Vatican Basilica, and an autographed copy of his latest social encyclical “Caritas in Veritate.”

“I will have something to read on the plane,” President Obama joked after receiving the encyclical.

In addition to his family, Obama’s entourage included Kaye Wilson, General Jim Jones, Denis McDonough, Mona Sutphen, Robert Gibbs, David Axelrod, Julieta Valls (currently responsible for the U.S. Embassy to the Holy See), Alyssa Mastnaco Clay Beers, Melissa Winter, Joseph Clancy and interpreter Elisabeth Ullman. They all received commemorative medals and blessed Rosaries.

At the end of the meeting, the Pope said in English, "I pray for you and bless your work."

"I am very grateful, I hope we will have fruitful relationships," the President responded.

Despite the fact that the Vatican did not release an official statement about the nature of the meeting, the “unannounced” gift to Obama of the 2008 document "Dignitas Personae" on bioethics and the right to life, could be a signal of the nature of at least part of their conversation.


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1 posted on 07/10/2009 9:56:50 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 07/10/2009 9:57:17 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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LOL, nailed him!


3 posted on 07/10/2009 9:58:03 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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Ping!


4 posted on 07/10/2009 9:58:07 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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So what. Obama will either re-gift it or throw it away.


5 posted on 07/10/2009 9:58:12 AM PDT by kromike
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The fool standing there with a fatuous grin on his face.

Undignified and lacking gravitas. Ditto the tank.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 9:58:53 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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I will have something to read on the plane,” President Obama joked after receiving the encyclical.
7 posted on 07/10/2009 9:59:56 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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LOL! You gotta love old Ben.


8 posted on 07/10/2009 10:00:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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Did BHO give the Pope a VHS copy of his inauguration speech?


9 posted on 07/10/2009 10:01:18 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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The gifts went immediately in the trash, no question.

Nice slap at Barry, Your Holiness.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 10:01:59 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You can't blame Bush anymore...)
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After the private conversation, and again in front of the cameras, President Obama gave the Pontiff a stole that was drapped upon the body of St. John Neumann from 1988 to 2007.

Well somebody, at least, has spent a bit more time thinking up better gifts than the Brits got.

11 posted on 07/10/2009 10:02:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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And from Cindy Wooden at Catholic News Service, who was in the Vatican.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI gave President Barack Obama a surprise gift this evening: a copy of the Vatican’s document on bioethics and human dignity, which was published in December.

ILLUSTRATION/LIFE ISSUES

Illustration of an early stage human embryo (CNS)

The document, “Dignitas Personae” (”The Dignity of a Person”), was issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Strangely enough, about four hours before Obama arrived, I was in the Vatican bookstore. While I was trying to pay, the cashier was interrupted by a phone call and she made me wait while she went to the shelves. She pulled  the last two English copies of the document off the shelf and put them on her desk.

Msgr. Georg Ganswein, the pope’s personal secretary, told reporters the document would help Obama understand the church’s reasoning behind its efforts to protect human life at every stage of its development.

She continues with moe updates in a comment from twitter, a few moments later:


12 posted on 07/10/2009 10:03:14 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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I can’t imagine what Axelrod is going to do with a Rosary.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 10:03:27 AM PDT by seton89
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President Obama gave the Pontiff a stole that was drapped upon the body of St. John Neumann from 1988 to 2007. The Pope instead presented the president with a mosaic portraying St. Peter's Square and the Vatican Basilica, and an autographed copy of his latest social encyclical “Caritas in Veritate.”

Related threads:
Encycli-bites for reading “Caritas in veritate”
Pope Benedict's Meeting with Obama a Setback for Conservative Catholics

14 posted on 07/10/2009 10:03:52 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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“I will have something to read on the plane,” President Obama joked...

-7bama sees it as "john" material.

15 posted on 07/10/2009 10:04:29 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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It's pretty easy to give away someone else’s money (20 billion) that you don't have, will have to borrow, and will burden others with that debt.

That is what's called liberal philanthropy (hypocrisy)!

Don't bet on any great overtures of correction coming from the Vatican. This will be used by the liberal media to give Obama a more palatable appearance.

16 posted on 07/10/2009 10:06:02 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Hedonism cast its vote and we ended up with an ObamaNation ruled by Fascism!)
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Way to go Vatican. Turned the tables on Obama's horrid gift giving by giving him something that sends a clear message of truth.


OBAMA AND DISHONOR AT NOTRE DAME

17 posted on 07/10/2009 10:06:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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18 posted on 07/10/2009 10:07:09 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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perfect!


19 posted on 07/10/2009 10:09:47 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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“I will have something to read on the plane,” President Obama joked after receiving the encyclical."

What a low class a$$.

20 posted on 07/10/2009 10:17:31 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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