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To: ohioWfan
Since slavery, the Democrat party has been opposed to racial equality and have been on the wrong side of history.

I understood your point, and I'm contradicting you. History doesn't take sides or play favorites. Anthropomorphizing it into a witness for the prosecution/defense is a mug's game, one beloved of scientific-materialist Communist theoreticians and propagandists.

People just make their moves, and other people make other moves. That's history.

As for who's been where on "civil rights", see my last.

In order to get the black vote, they have enacted policies that have destroyed the black family, murdered millions of unborn black babies, enacted AA ("the soft bigotry of low expectations") ....

As far as recent history is concerned, you won't get an argument from me on that subject. The performance and delivery of many parties involved in the "civil rights movement" has been disappointing, but then we're dealing with people, not plaster saints. That's why conservatives are so dry, when liberals are so sanguine and damp.

...your points seem to be more about north/south than Republican/Democrat, and I made no reference to that geographical difference....

That's just how things have played out in U.S. history. That division was key to the destruction of the old Federal Republic and the substitution of the new centralized nation-state that has hypertrophied into the self-validating, self-constituting, omnicompetent, omnipresent, overweening superstate that we rightly deplore and fear.

641 posted on 07/16/2009 3:20:01 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
... but then we're dealing with people, not plaster saints. That's why conservatives are so dry, when liberals are so sanguine and damp.

That analogy does nothing for me. Care to try another, one that perhaps I can latch on to?

642 posted on 07/16/2009 3:47:09 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I see there's not much point in continuing this.

Lincoln was a Republican, Woodrow Wilson a Democrat, the sole Justice opposing Plessy vs. Ferguson was a Republican, it was Republicans who had the votes to carry the Civil Rights Act, and appoint Thurgood Marshall (not necessarily a good thing). The only present SC Justice (and one of the most conservative) was nominated by a Republican President. The only KKK member in the Congress is a Democrat. Democrat political and social policies (welfare and abortion) since the 1960's have harmed black families and killed a disproportionate number of black babies, and AA is fundamentally racist.

Those are historical facts. I gave the obvious disclaimer that there were exceptions, but it seems that your passions lie in other areas, so that you adjusted the focus of what I said to "contradict" what I was saying, even though what I was saying is historically accurate.

I don't know you, but I would guess from your posts that you are not a Republican so don't want to give Republicans credit, and that you are a southerner still angry about the Civil War. And/or that you are just being contrary for its own sake.

Nice discussion, lentul. I learned quite a bit from your comments here, some good, some not so very much....

643 posted on 07/16/2009 6:38:19 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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