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To: Luke21
This is not only to silence us, but to put us on the defensive, and make it where we censor ourselves, join in the “two minutes hate,” beat our breasts about not being racists and ask them to please, please, please like us and understand that we really are good people.

Nah. What defensive? Decent people do censor themselves--just because something is true, we do not have to blare it in an offensive way. We can get our point across anyway, and more effectively if we can reach more people.

They (the Liberals, especially the Obamites) are out to declare any forum where members express well-reasoned dissent a "hate" site if they can and shut them down.

Why give them the ammo they need to do that?

They are not interested in debate, or else liberals--arguing as liberals do--would not change the subject (or cease to comment at all) when we bring up a substantiative point.

Nope, they want an end to opposition, pure and simple.

I really don't give a rabid rat rectum if they like us or not. They probably (with what passes for thinking with liberals) never will, and I really don't care.

All I care about is whether I like myself, whether my God has severe issues with my behaviour--oh and let's not forget the Owner of the site, who asked up front that we not be (among other things) racist in our remarks.

Those are the rules here in, and I agreed to abide by those or get the zot long ago.

I am a man of my word, after all.

I’m not giving up my soul to these ghouls.

Nor am I.

Nor will I give them the satisfaction of crawling through the slime to their level of discourse. We're good enough to beat them, even if the rules are unfair. They have the MSM, and we are stuck with their referees for now.

That does not mean we can't criticize the behaviour of the Obama family while they are representing the United States, nor does it mean we cannot criticize their actions, their philosophies, their dress, their demeanor, just that we have to do so without using cultural references which can be misconstrued to be an attack on anything but the acts of the individual(s) we are focused on.

So focus on the acts (which are bad enough without the obvious cultural references) and we can continue to point out the nonsense people bought into in November in an effective way.

There is more than enough theft, fraud, improper attire, demeanor, and conduct to do so without one reference which can be construed as "racist".

If we let them have the material they need, (and I wouldn't put it past trolls to post it if none of us will), they will marginalize or eliminate the substantiative material disclosed and analyzed here by branding us "racist", and eventually use that to eliminate this venue altogether.

We have, barring incident or accident, another three years plus of this bunch of pikers, we'd best mind our Ps and Qs or we'll be shut out before the real ruckus begins.

609 posted on 07/12/2009 1:21:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I like the way you put things, and agree with you. We at FR have a collection of individuals who (for the most part in my view) have done the right things in life, made their way, served proudly (which is a major, major reason why we can defeat the left), and are what one could describe (again, for the most part) as “salt of the earth”. God, country, and family are a common belief thread here, which is what separates us from the cesspool of the left, and will lead to the triumph of goodness and right over what the Obama clan has in mind.

I think back to the fall of 2004 when CBS tried to defeat GWB for the odious fraud John Kerry. Sitting at my PC in real time when patriots like “buckhead” led the way to expose the criminal conspiracy between Dan Rather and the Kerry campaign. That was a triumph the left could never pull off, largely because of its methods and viewpoint. We have far more intelligent and commonsense folks than the left, even though they try to tar “flyover country” and the South as a bunch of uneducated hicks and gun-clingers. Well, for my money, even though I reside in the People’s Republic of Illinois, I am a Southerner at heart and a son of the Heartland.

I depend on FR to educate me on the dangers from the left, and will always defend the upright folks here who try to do the right thing. But, let’s not give the leftists any ammunition and ordnance to use against us, for they will try.

Mark my words, my tagline speaks the truth.


612 posted on 07/12/2009 7:45:09 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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