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Senate Democrats Begin Drawing Road Map to 60 Votes on Climate Bill (Electric rates going higher)
ny times ^ | 7/8/2009 | DARREN SAMUELSOHN

Posted on 07/08/2009 6:35:09 AM PDT by tobyhill

When it comes to climate change legislation, Senate Democratic leaders find themselves in a similar spot to where their House counterparts stood a few months ago: pledging passage of a comprehensive bill without a clear path on how to get there.

Majority Leader Harry Reid yesterday insisted that he wanted to get a sweeping energy and global warming measure onto the Senate floor between mid-September and early October. But the Nevada Democrat and his lieutenants were less specific when it came to defining their strategy for crossing the all-important 60-vote threshold needed to defeat an expected Republican filibuster.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 07/08/2009 6:35:10 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

What happened to the Repubs’ assurances that this bill was DOA in the Senate?


2 posted on 07/08/2009 6:39:04 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: tobyhill

When’s the vote?


3 posted on 07/08/2009 6:40:34 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: pabianice
The GOP is impotent. The Rats have 60 votes and at least 2 RINOs ready to prevent a filibuster.
4 posted on 07/08/2009 6:41:14 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: TexasCajun

As quick as Reid can get it to the floor without the bill actually being read.


5 posted on 07/08/2009 6:42:23 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: TexasCajun

When’s the vote?

Yea, particularly when Byrd and Kennedy are still horizontal elsewhere!


6 posted on 07/08/2009 6:42:48 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: pabianice
What happened to the Repubs’ assurances that this bill was DOA in the Senate?

Despite the assurances, I found it very hard to believe that this travesty was DOA in the Senate.

7 posted on 07/08/2009 6:45:13 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.)
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To: tobyhill

There may be some red dog Democrat defectors. This horrible, suicidal bill is wildly unpopular out in the hustings. A vote in favor might be a career ender for many Senators.

We ought to do our best to make sure this message is hammered home to every vulnerable Senator of whatever party.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 6:45:32 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: tobyhill
The GOP is impotent. The Rats have 60 votes and at least 2 RINOs ready to prevent a filibuster.

Not necessarily on this issue. You have a number of coal state Dems that are opposed to this bill. Remeber that in the campaign, Obama admitted that cap-and-trade would bankrupt the coal industry. So senators from W. VA,, PA, AR and others that have a large coal industry have come out against it.

9 posted on 07/08/2009 6:46:04 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: tobyhill; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 07/08/2009 6:49:19 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: CA Conservative
The Coal Rats will cave to Reid and Pelosi. The Rat Leaders will apply so much pressure to them that if they go against the leadership they will have no money to run again.
11 posted on 07/08/2009 7:04:27 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: John Valentine

I can count at least 5 Repubs who will vote for it: McCain, Graham, Snowe, Collins and Martinez.

Here are the Dems who will probably vote against it: Byrd, Rockefeller, Landrieu and Nelson.

Please add or subtract from the list.

(We are screwed)


12 posted on 07/08/2009 7:06:59 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: tobyhill

There are enough sensible democrats that should keep this thing from passing in the Senate. Hopefully, these democrat senators will grow some balls and stand up against thier party.


13 posted on 07/08/2009 7:08:11 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: tobyhill

“As quick as Reid can get it to the floor without the bill actually being read”

LOL!


14 posted on 07/08/2009 7:12:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: tobyhill

Inhofe said this wouldn’t happen. Now look where we are.

Of course, the NY Slimes is a democrat propaganda mouthpiece, so this should be taken with that fact in mind...nevertheless, it is worrisome to know the socialists are close to passing this crap.


15 posted on 07/08/2009 7:15:47 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TRY ONE
Will Byrd really vote for it??? He is from a coal state.
16 posted on 07/08/2009 7:16:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: pabianice
What happened to the Repubs’ assurances that this bill was DOA in the Senate?

I'd ask them, but you'd have to find them first...


17 posted on 07/08/2009 7:19:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Rats will haul Byrd in from the hospital in a wheelbarrow then tell him it’s for increasing coal production just to get his vote.


18 posted on 07/08/2009 7:22:37 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Boiling Pots
Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR) might not support Cap-and-Trade, and he is one of eight Democrats that oppose pass Cap-and-Trade via Reconciliation.

http://arkansasnews.com/2009/07/05/berry-ross-on-the-right-side-of-cap-and-trade/ http://www.americansforprosperity.org/031209-28-senators-oppose-cap-and-trade-reconciliation

19 posted on 07/08/2009 7:31:36 AM PDT by smith5460
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To: tobyhill

Senate GOP is now irrelevant. It all comes down to whether or not the Dems want to commit electoral suicide. To summarize, are all 60 that dumb? Maybe yes...


20 posted on 07/08/2009 7:36:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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