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Kissinger: 'Obama Is Like a Chess Player'
presstv.ir ^ | July 6, 2009 | Jan Fleischhauer and Gabor Steingart

Posted on 07/08/2009 12:01:30 AM PDT by ckilmer

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1 posted on 07/08/2009 12:01:30 AM PDT by ckilmer
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I know there a lot of folks here who are no fans of kissinger. I’m not really one myself.

However, I thought he did a good job here of explaining the problem posed by the treaty of versailles.


2 posted on 07/08/2009 12:02:54 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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3 posted on 07/08/2009 12:08:11 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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It's interesting that the used a quote that, especially in it's truncated form, seems very flattering of Obama.

A quote more reflective of Kissenger's premise would have bee taken from this paragraph...

"If it were to be continued on the belief that every crisis can be managed by a philosophical speech, then he will run into Wilsonian problems."

People will just read the headline and assume that Kissinger is heaping fawning praise on Obama, he's not.

4 posted on 07/08/2009 12:09:08 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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"Obama is like a chess player..."

Yeah, like a pawn. But whose pawn?

5 posted on 07/08/2009 12:16:07 AM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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Anyone with half a brain can figure out why Versailles failed. Big deal.

What this interview does is reveal some of Kissinger’s major failings. One, he doesn’t seem to realize that free states do not attack each other, so when he sets out to create peace through a balance of power, he’s basically ensuring a future war, much like how the pre-WW1 system of alliances ensured that particular war. Two, when he says that there have to be certain conditions in place in order to conduct foreign policy, it never enters his head to influence those conditions, because again, he doesn’t realize that free states don’t attack each other. So to use his Iran example, he doesn’t seem to care whether or not the mullahs are overthrown, he just cares whether or not there’s a negotiating partner.

Good grief and good riddance.


6 posted on 07/08/2009 12:19:19 AM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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“Obama is like a chess player...”

They misspelled checkers...


7 posted on 07/08/2009 12:21:28 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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Iran is a relatively weak and small country that has inherent limits to its capabilities. The relationship of China with the rest of the world is a lot more important in historic terms than the Iranian issues by themselves.

This is true only because Kissinger puts the proposition in relative terms. Yes, China is more important in historic terms than Iran because China is bigger and economically more robust and has a bigger if not a brighter future. But, in contriving in American foreign policy one cannot the content with relative judgments if the harm caused crosses an absolute line.

In other words, Iran is now possessed of two of the most important assets in power-play politics and will soon be possessed of the third. Iran is already strategically located a place where it can control the Straits of Hormuz and a vast percentage of the world's flow of oil. Iran is possessed of perhaps the second-largest reserves of oil in the world and with the proper exploitation can become a major player. Third, Iran is very likely soon to have the bomb and with that bomb it can exploit its control over the Straits of Hormuz without much fear of retaliation; it can intimidate its neighbors like Saudi Arabia and vicariously control the world's largest producer of oil; possessed of the bomb, Iran can intimidate its Muslim neighbors into active opposition to America and the West.

These three factors make Iran an absolute problem even if it is, in historic terms, relatively less important that China. Obama's Cairo speech as an opening ploy, knight to King 4, is defensible. As a goal for policy it will be disastrous. There is nothing in Obama's personal history to justify Henry Kissinger's generous wait and see attitude.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 12:32:54 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Certainly, from the headline you’d think that he was jumping on the Zero bandwagon; when in reality he only offered a measured appraisal of the situation. I have no real disagreements with anything he said.


9 posted on 07/08/2009 12:37:56 AM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: ltc8k6

“They misspelled checkers...”

Shell game is more like it.


10 posted on 07/08/2009 12:38:30 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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"I see two possibilities. We will either come to an understanding with Iran, or we will clash."

WOW! This is why he gets paid the big bux! ;)

11 posted on 07/08/2009 12:41:05 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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"Certainly, from the headline you’d think that he was jumping on the Zero bandwagon; when in reality he only offered a measured appraisal of the situation. I have no real disagreements with anything he said."

Yes, I don't either. I meant to include in my original post, that the appropriate headline could have easily been written...

Obama's Wilsonian Problem

12 posted on 07/08/2009 12:44:09 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: nathanbedford

How can Kissinger imply this from Zer0?

This is Zer0’s first full time job.

My hunch is Kissinger knows we’re in deep doo-doo
with Zer0. To proclaim Zer0 as a moron is not productive
for our security. HK’s bluff may buy some time for Zer0.


13 posted on 07/08/2009 12:55:44 AM PDT by ChiMark
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No, we’re the pawns, and he sacrificed us all. Now he’s turning the board around to play for the other side.


14 posted on 07/08/2009 1:01:49 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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The world is the chessboard. We are the pawns. The Illuminati are the engineers of the global political chess game and they decide the winner.
15 posted on 07/08/2009 1:04:09 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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"Obama Is Like a Chess Player"

Obama-Putin, Russia, 2009: Final Position

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16 posted on 07/08/2009 1:09:03 AM PDT by decal ("Never allow a nervous female to have access to a pistol, no matter what you're wearing.")
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SPIEGEL: But is what we have seen so far from him truly realpolitik?

Kissinger: It is also too early to say that. If what he wants to do is convey to the Islamic world that America has an open attitude to dialogue and is not determined on physical confrontation as its only strategy, then it can play a very useful role. If it were to be continued on the belief that every crisis can be managed by a philosophical speech, then he will run into Wilsonian problems.


17 posted on 07/08/2009 1:12:04 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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Obama is like a chess player... Now he's got to play his hand....

Henry is mixing up his metaphors.

18 posted on 07/08/2009 1:17:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: decal

Not bad, except the colors should be reversed.


19 posted on 07/08/2009 1:19:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ckilmer

I don’t remember, how does a teleprompter move?


20 posted on 07/08/2009 1:29:54 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan</a><P>Rev13:3)
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