Urine turned into hydrogen fuel

Chemistry World ^ | 02 July 2009 | Matt Wilkinson

[ErnstStavroBlofeld]

That is correct

[Huskrrrr]

I think this is a great process and I’m just tweaking the enviromentalists ;0).

[neverdem]

Isnt Salt the electrolyte?

Sodium and chloride ions are electrolytes in aqueous solutions. If it precipiates as a solid, I think it might muck up cathode or anode performance.

[mylife]

Its all a matter of degrees(if you will forgive my Global warming terminology)..

We have been through all this science. Nuke has the highest yield.

Regular Hydrocarbons are next in efficiency.

[ErnstStavroBlofeld]

I see your point.It is amazing, that I have to rehash a subject I took years ago.

[DaveTesla]

Please tell me this is humor.

Nobody could be that stupid.
A nickel battery using piss as the electrolyte.

At $270 a ton the urea and the nickel costs far out weigh
the electricity costs for electrolysis.

First they came for the corn.
Now there going to come for the fertilizer?
But they refuse to drill for the oil.

[mylife]

I dont know. Its been 25 years since I studied J shells and K shells and the transfer of energy and all that physics.

All I know is that we just keep reinventing the wheel.

I havent seen anything that will replace hydrocarbons except perhaps ,pebble bed reactors

Solar panels and wind sure aint gonna do it.

They are inefficient.

[DaveTesla]

“Regular Hydrocarbons are next in efficiency.”

The typical IC engine is only 16-17% (at full load) efficient.

Instead of working on better fuels (one of the limiting factors) and less waste heat
their playing with piss.

We have a long way to go. Abandoning hydrocarbon fuels
is ridiculous.

[neverdem]

It's already been proven that it takes more energy to get the hydrogen out of water than the actual energy that hydrogen will produce.

"Botte used electrolysis to break the molecule apart, developing an inexpensive new nickel-based electrode to selectively and efficiently oxidise the urea. To break the molecule down, a voltage of 0.37V needs to be applied across the cell - much less than the 1.23V needed to split water. "

No matter how much free piss you have, take away the subsidies, and this technology is worthless.

Last time that I checked, we're paying taxes for waste disposal in most municipalities.

You don't get something for nothing.

I'll take free energy anytime.

[mylife]

Diesel has been efficient from day one

[plsjr]

I know, let's get congress to repeal the "Law of Conservation of Energy".
I'm sure when our resident signs the bill to repeal, it will allow us to create all the energy we need! Probably the "dark energy" like that the scientists at the Department of Energy think they have discovered that is actually causing the universe to grow!

I'm sure they'll pass it! They don't like conservatives anyway.
</sarc>

[mylife]

The typical IC engine is only 16-17% (at full load) efficient.

Compared to What?

[DaveTesla]

Yes.

Synthetic diesels are clean and have tremendous potential.

http://www.shell.com/home/content/aboutshell/our_business/oil_products/fuels/gtl/gas_to_liquids.html

[mylife]

Even regular diesel

[DaveTesla]

Sorry cant get youtube here (firewall blocked).

Compared to what it could be.
There is massive room for improvement.
Better fuels, higher compression, longer stroke
for heat Scavenging and better combustion.

[Cobra64]

[DaveTesla]

I am currently working on new Diesel engines using synthetic fuel.

One would have to see it to believe.

[Costumed Vigilante]

Big deal. George Soros turned fecal material into a President.

A verbis ad verbera

[goodnesswins]

ROFLMAO....all the men with BPH are going to get RELIEF!!!!!!!!...er....BE relieved!!!! (I just spent 8 hours in a car with one today!!!!) Even if this wouldn’t work.....it’s been worth the laughs....

[Slump Tester]

The answer is to drill here drill now, not to waste money on loser "technologies" like this.

Don't folks take physics anymore?

Nothing will ever replace oil, and there's plenty of if out there.