[allmendream]

I usually agree with Judge Clarence Thomas.

He opined long ago that perhaps the best solution is to just out and out say “A kid doesn't have 1st amendment rights at school.”

At first I was appalled at this view. But slowly but surely I am coming around to it.

The law already states that the school is the de facto “parent” while the child is under their care. Parents DO exercise control over the actions, words, and dress of their children.

This would HOPEFULLY not be an example of the school telling kids what to think, or saying some views are allowed and others disallowed; it should just be a blanket “do that on your own time, you are here to learn right now, not teach, motivate, proselytize, politicize or propagandize.”

[2nd amendment mama]

The law already states that the school is the de facto “parent” while the child is under their care.

Please cite that law to me.

[a fool in paradise]

So long as the school ALSO takes a “hands off” approach on pushing for political causes (Earth Day, Gay Pride, Communist Women’s Day...) and does not put advocacy posters into hallways.

Are Young Conservatives and Young Liberals student clubs permissible?

[wintertime]

He opined long ago that perhaps the best solution is to just out and out say “A kid doesn't have 1st amendment rights at school.”
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The best solution would be to declare all government k-12 schools in violation of the First Amendment! They are anyway.

[TChris]

He opined long ago that perhaps the best solution is to just out and out say “A kid doesn't have 1st amendment rights at school.”

At first I was appalled at this view. But slowly but surely I am coming around to it.

I agree... mostly.

The growing problem is that public schools are increasingly insisting on overriding the parents' rights and forcing objectionable materials and viewpoints on our children.

Such restrictions on students' free speech MUST be universal if they are used. A ban on all shirts with ANY printing whatsoever (no Che, etc.) would be fair.

But then what do we do about the teachers who HAVE their 1st Amendment rights protected, who then teach our children whatever offensive viewpoint they might deem proper?

[Little Ray]

I think I figured out that kids don’t have any rights (freedom of speech, freedom from search and seizure, etc.) at school pretty early - while I was still IN school.

If they say say no gang colors - no gang colors. If they say no political or religious tees, no political or religious tees.

But if they allow any other politically themed garments, buttons, etc., then they have to allow this one as well.