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Fox News Report Death of Former Sec Def Robert McNamara
Fox News ^ | 6 July 2009 | None

Posted on 07/06/2009 5:52:11 AM PDT by edpc

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To: edpc

Well, he was the man behind the Ford Falcon.


41 posted on 07/06/2009 6:23:13 AM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Bigun

I will say nothing about his departure for the afterlife but I know how I feel about how this individual lived his life on Earth. This was a man who prosecuted a lunatic military strategy yet harbored his own son and his draft-dodging friends in his house when they came to DC to demonstrate against it. This was a man who later praised the antiwar left and wouldn’t lift a hand (not even from the sale of his “book” about Vietnam) to help veterans of the war he started and botched. This was a man so desperate to be accepted back into the Georgetown party circuit of rich liberals that he would repudiate the war he crafted and the men who fought it (Robert Novak wrote that he’d been running around Georgetown for years trashing the war). This was a man I saw on a tv interview one time in the 80s shrieking “I was against it”, when he was its architect. I hope that before robert macnamara ends his journey after-death, he has to go to the Mall and read every name on the Vietnam Memorial because he’s the man whose bean-counter, “I’m smarter than you will ever be” policies put them there.


42 posted on 07/06/2009 6:23:57 AM PDT by laconic
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To: bondjamesbond
If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all.

My dad's saying. He was a very quiet man.

43 posted on 07/06/2009 6:24:06 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Ace the Biker
May he fry in HELL!!!!!!!!!

My sentiments, exactly.

And he will, I'm certain of it.

44 posted on 07/06/2009 6:25:42 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: edpc

I was at ground zero where “McNamara’s Wall” was managed. The electronic war on the Ho Chi Minh trail. Of course it was all TS and with the on again off again air war, against the enemy, we were losing the propaganda side of the conflict. We were all war criminals fighting against the rightful government of Vietnam. So under the bus we went.


45 posted on 07/06/2009 6:26:04 AM PDT by wita
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To: edpc
After leaving the Pentagon on the verge of a nervous breakdown, McNamara became president of the World Bank and devoted evangelical energies to the belief that improving life in rural communities in developing countries was a more promising path to peace than the buildup of arms and armies.

He screwed up the lived of billions of third world folks too.

46 posted on 07/06/2009 6:26:55 AM PDT by DManA
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To: edpc

High office: Where arrogant educated fools who would under normal circumstances only bore people to death get to kill large numbers of their fellow human beings instead.


47 posted on 07/06/2009 6:28:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: mazda77

I consider him lower than jon carry.


48 posted on 07/06/2009 6:28:37 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: edpc

I distinctly remember him as one of the people before Gulf War I stating we’d end up in World War I style trench warfare for a year with Iraq and have thousands killed.


49 posted on 07/06/2009 6:30:46 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Carley

He was a director of The Washington Post. Says a lot about him and it says a lot about them.


50 posted on 07/06/2009 6:31:47 AM PDT by laconic
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To: edpc

An interesting read on McNamara and his group at Ford Motor.

http://www.amazon.com/Whiz-Kids-Founding-American-Business/dp/0385248040
The Whiz Kids: The Founding Fathers of American Business - and the Legacy they Left Us


51 posted on 07/06/2009 6:32:34 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: stayathomemom

My Pop always said, “If you can’t say something nice about somebody, think of something else”. He probably had McNamara in mind.


52 posted on 07/06/2009 6:32:36 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: laconic

You said what I was thinking better than I ever could have and managed to do it very nicely which I never could have done.

Thanks!


53 posted on 07/06/2009 6:33:08 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: kellynla

Welcome home to you as well and Semper Fi!


54 posted on 07/06/2009 6:34:30 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Vaquero
A truly horrible human being.

That sums it up nicely... He was a disgrace.

55 posted on 07/06/2009 6:35:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Central park didn't hit 85 degrees in June this year - last time was 1916. Al Gore is nuts.)
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To: edpc

I can think of some 58,000 reasons to hope he rests in a very hot area.

It seems the old adage, ‘only the good die young,’ is proven true yet again.


56 posted on 07/06/2009 6:39:42 AM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: OldSmaj; Ace the Biker
“What we still don’t understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media w as definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!”

General Vo Nguyen Giap in his memoirs

57 posted on 07/06/2009 6:40:59 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun; kellynla

They better plan putting a good drainage system under his casket, and a navel high shroud around his plot to accommodate all of us that intend to piss upon his grave...


58 posted on 07/06/2009 6:42:36 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: shove_it
Maybe, as you say, “he was a real good bean counter,” I don't know. But as you imply, bean counting alone does not count for much. When I served on the USS John F. Kennedy (CVA 67) in the late 1960s, the scuttlebut (and that's all it was) was that the ship had been changed from nuclear powered to oil fueled as a McNamara money-saving measure. You gotta figure that didn't work out too well over the life of the ship (although 1,200-psi steam-which I understand is not possible with nuclear power-does count for something). More importantly, it probably provides additional evidence that McNamara had much more intelligence than he had good judgment. The focus should have been on combat effectiveness more than on cost of fuel.
59 posted on 07/06/2009 6:43:09 AM PDT by olrtex
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To: JDoutrider

You got that right my FRiend!


60 posted on 07/06/2009 6:46:34 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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