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To: In veno, veritas

The main problem with any government-privitization idea is that privitization ends up costing taxpayers more money...in the long run.

Whenever something is privitized, the company, business, or organization involved has to make money in order to stay in business. They have to bring in more revenue than a government entity would....thus when its government funds for privitization...taxpayers end up paying more in tax dollars.

If having private toll roads is such a good idea....then let those who want it done to do so without government funds. It never happens


7 posted on 07/05/2009 9:06:11 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
How does the government run something more efficiently than a private business? Especially given that we have a lot of short term politicians whose goal is to build a road or bridge with his name on it meanwhile existing roads are not maintained (such as the MN bridge collapse).

This is the entire point, which I see that you are hinting at: we have too many roads, there is no mechanism in place that determines the efficient allocation of roads. If the roads are privatized, then yes, we'll lose some, or at least they'll go back to gravel or something of the like. But it is just simply untrue that the government is somehow more efficient than a market system for distribution.

As for the third paragraph, why should anyone want to use a private road when the government is the competition and provides one for free? This same thing applies to low cost health care, no one provides it since the government underbids everyone else in order to have a "fair" rate. Here is a good allegory: http://theunbrokenwindow.com/2009/05/12/thank-goodness-for-the-government-shoe-agency/

15 posted on 07/05/2009 10:19:55 AM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“They have to bring in more revenue than a government entity would....thus when its government funds for privitization...taxpayers end up paying more in tax dollars.”

Sorry, but I suggest you have a false premise of three in the above sentence.

1. Government has no reality check in the free market.

2. Goobers in gooberment agencies get vastly more benefits, retirement pay, and other goodies than do free market employees.

3. Gooberment agencies don’t reduce employees, remove regulations/rules, ad nauseam.

Private charity considers a 28% overhead super high, whereas gooberment help from a gooberment agency does well to get 28% to the “needy” they putatively serve.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 2:32:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“They have to bring in more revenue than a government entity would....thus when its government funds for privitization...taxpayers end up paying more in tax dollars.”

Sorry, but I suggest you have a false premise of three in the above sentence.

1. Government has no reality check in the free market.

2. Goobers in gooberment agencies get vastly more benefits, retirement pay, and other goodies than do free market employees.

3. Gooberment agencies don’t reduce employees, remove regulations/rules, ad nauseam.

Private charity considers a 28% overhead super high, whereas gooberment help from a gooberment agency does well to get 28% to the “needy” they putatively serve.


21 posted on 07/05/2009 2:32:30 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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