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What’s Beyond Those Bargains? (barf alert)
New York Times ^ | July 4, 2009 | Devin Leonard

Posted on 07/05/2009 4:54:46 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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[“Cheap: The High Cost of Discount Culture”] is a jeremiad. Ms. Ruppel Shell, a contributing editor for The Atlantic Monthly and a journalism professor at Boston University, is disgusted with retailers who she says have abandoned their principles in pursuit of rock-bottom prices. And she is angry with the rest of us for supporting them.

Ms. Ruppel Shell argues that our national obsession with bargains has lowered our standard of living and hurt the environment and the quality of American products.

“Cheap” has plenty of targets, and many are usual ones. Ms. Ruppel Shell lambastes Wal-Mart, saying it underpays its workers and enables other retailers to do the same. She criticizes China as tolerating sweatshops with dangerous working conditions. And if you have a weak stomach, you may not get past the chapter entitled “Cheap Eats.” The author goes into wrenching detail about the foul and environmentally noxious conditions at some of the world’s largest factory farms, suppliers to the fast-food industry.

She castigates Red Lobster, saying it patronizes Thailand’s shrimp farms. The Thai shrimp industry has been accused of environmental, child labor and human rights abuses; it attracts migrant workers from Vietnam and Cambodia who labor for next to nothing, Ms. Ruppel Smith writes.

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But most of all, Ms. Ruppel Shell indicts all of us for supporting these discounters — particularly those of us who consider ourselves politically and socially aware.

“We rail against exploitation of low-paid workers in Asia” but still drive long distances to save a little money on tube socks, she writes. “We fume over the mistreatment of animals by agribusiness but freak out at an uptick in food prices. We lecture our kids on social responsibility and then buy them toys assembled by destitute child workers on some far-flung foreign shore.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bookreview; consumerism; retailers; ruppelshell
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It is much easier to criticize businesses that are serving consumers and providing jobs than it is to compete with them. Many academics seem to look down on the rest of society, which they consider greedy. However the price of their own product -- college education -- continually rises faster than the goods produced by greedy businessmen.
1 posted on 07/05/2009 4:54:46 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The US could save quite a bit by closing all of the “Journalism” schools/departments.


2 posted on 07/05/2009 4:56:37 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: reaganaut1
When Mssssss. Ruppell Shell finances an alternative - restaurant, furniture store, retail outlet, anything; I'm sure the masses in Mass will flock to it and justify her rant. In the meantime, she sounds like an idiot.
3 posted on 07/05/2009 5:00:05 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: reaganaut1

“Ms. Ruppel Shell argues that our national obsession with bargains has lowered our standard of living and hurt the environment and the quality of American products.”

This is why promoting demand-side economics will make you look like an idiot.


4 posted on 07/05/2009 5:00:16 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: reaganaut1
“We rail against exploitation of low-paid workers in Asia” but still drive long distances to save a little money on tube socks, she writes. “We fume over the mistreatment of animals by agribusiness but freak out at an uptick in food prices. We lecture our kids on social responsibility and then buy them toys assembled by destitute child workers on some far-flung foreign shore.”

She is absolutely correct here.

And she at least has the honesty to implicitly admit that is liberals got their wishes about how the world should be run everything would be a great deal more expensive.

5 posted on 07/05/2009 5:00:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Ms. Ruppel Shell argues that our national obsession with bargains has lowered our standard of living

Technically speaking, when products become less expensive our standard of living goes up. There may be plenty of undesirable side effects, but this is an oxymoronic statement.

6 posted on 07/05/2009 5:05:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: reaganaut1

Maybe I could afford the full price name brand union made American luxury products if Obama stopped sucking money out of my pocket to pay back his political supporters.


7 posted on 07/05/2009 5:07:00 AM PDT by Norman Conquest (By the time you're talking price, your soul is already sold.)
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To: reaganaut1
The subsidies for higher education need to stop. They should at least be limited to what is subsidized for a community college. Anything over the customer pays. Just like this guy wants, people forced to pay more.
8 posted on 07/05/2009 5:09:53 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Sherman Logan

how the world should be run everything would be a great deal more expensive.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A lot more people in the third world would be dead from starvation.

She neglects to mention that the only thing between a child laborer and death from starvation is his job.


9 posted on 07/05/2009 5:09:58 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

From an American’s perspective the primary direct effect would be that stuff would cost a whole lot more.

But you are of course correct. The “exploited” workers of third world countries are usually very happy to have these horrible jobs.


10 posted on 07/05/2009 5:15:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: reaganaut1
At Amazon: "Cheap: The High Cost of Discount Culture" by Ellen Ruppel Shell (Hardcover - Jul 2, 2009) Buy new: $25.95 now discounted to $17.13

A little bit of irony to warm a midsummer's day!

11 posted on 07/05/2009 5:54:06 AM PDT by Jagman
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To: Sherman Logan
What pisses me off about the liberals that babble on about walmart is the fact that most of the brands they sell are exactly the same brands other stores sell. The only difference is the price.

Why do they care that a bottle of Hunts ketchup is $.25 cheaper? If a pair of Wrangler jeans are $5 less, did some poor child suffer because the buyer didn't pay the extra $5 at the Mall?

They just don't have common sense and consumers know it.

12 posted on 07/05/2009 5:56:57 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Norman Conquest
“Maybe I could afford the full price name brand union made American luxury products if Obama stopped sucking money out of my pocket to pay back his political supporters.”
Not really. Obama is pretty determined to destroy American business, except for, of course, the one’s he owns. Besides, the socialist collective bargaining costs are only one aspect of the reason there are no “American” made products. If an entreprenuer were to be foolish enough to try to produce goods in today's DemonRAT liberal socialist “America”, they have to outsmart the enviro nazi’s, contend with endless government intrusion into every aspect of their business practices, and then hope they are sucessful enough to amass enough profits to fend off the circling vultures known as product liability lawyers. The liberal socialist DemonRATs have made manufacturing and business in general the scapegoat for so long in their tactics of class warfare that it's almost shocking to find products actually “Made in America”. Now that they have killed the engine of the economic machine, they are picking at the carcass and trying to invent new scams to feed their insatiable need to suck off the fruits of others hard work and risk taking.
Henceforth comes the “greening of America” and other socialist propaganda efforts. And the Dumb Masses nod and keep swallowing it whole.
13 posted on 07/05/2009 5:58:52 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: reaganaut1

I’d like to see Ms. Shell go into a poor neighborhood and confiscate all the cheap tvs, microwave ovens, refrigerators, and other stuff because the buyers of it were not politically aware. If she lives, she can then explain to them how they’re better off this way.


14 posted on 07/05/2009 6:01:33 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Ms. Ruppel Shell would suggest that with the proper use of birth control/abortion, there would not be any hungry children to exploit.


15 posted on 07/05/2009 6:01:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: reaganaut1

“We rail against exploitation of low-paid workers in Asia” but still drive long distances to save a little money on tube socks, she writes. “We fume over the mistreatment of animals by agribusiness but freak out at an uptick in food prices. We lecture our kids on social responsibility and then buy them toys assembled by destitute child workers on some far-flung foreign shore.”

At least she nails one thing- the total hypocrisy of liberals - their causes are always to change others behavior, not their own.


16 posted on 07/05/2009 6:25:57 AM PDT by mgpilot
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To: reaganaut1

Well, A) she doesn’t have to shop at those stores, in fact, there are stores I won’t shop at, namely WalMart due to the support for taxing me to pay for their employees healthcare and B) buy less crap, buy more quality.


17 posted on 07/05/2009 6:47:08 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Beagle8U

In actual fact many of the items sold are not identical to those sold elsewhere, even of the same brand.

For example, many name brands such as Wrangler produce a cheaper, lower quality version for distribution thru WM. They do this to meet WM’s constant demands for lower prices. I think in the long run this diminishes the value of their brand, their most important asset, but the volume represented by WM is very hard for a manufacturer to ignore.

Therefore, the Wrangler jeans you buy at WM are very likely of lower quality than the “same product” from JC Penney.

Those who don’t like this policy are perfectly free to shop elsewhere and pay more.


18 posted on 07/05/2009 6:51:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: sig226

I saw a study a while back documenting that the lower prices created by WM, not only at their stores but at those stores competing with them, has done more to reduce poverty in America over the last 20 years than all the federal and state poverty programs put together.

I’ve always found it odd the way people sneer at low prices. Absolutely nobody would sneer at a raise in salary of 20%. But when prices are reduced by 20% many people will sneer. Yet a 20% reduction in prices is exactly equal to a 20% raise. Actually even more valuable, since you don’t have to pay taxes on the increase.


19 posted on 07/05/2009 6:56:55 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: reaganaut1

There used to be quite a contingent here on freerepublic who would have agreed with every word of this article. This contingent argued that the US should impose stiff tariffs on every imported good to encourge buying American. This contingent posted three or four articles every week arguing that increasing the cost of imported goods this would increase the wealth of all Americans. Those of us who argued against this fallicy were dubbed “FreeTraitors” and were accused of being ‘stooges’ for big business and the Chinese.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 7:02:47 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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