[central_va]

Every state needs to take up this fight. Need to send a message back to DC

That was tried once and the Union was "preserved".

[MissouriConservative]

Lincoln made sure that the fed government stayed all powerful and that the state were subservient. The 17th Amendment finished what Lincoln started.

[NTHockey]

>>Every state needs to take up this fight. Need to send a message back to DC
That was tried once and the Union was “preserved”.<<

“If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again”. Learn from past mistakes. If it happens again, I guarantee the results will be different.

BTW, can anyone answer these questions? The Confederate States were agrarian, with little industry. How then did they, by July 1861, have a fully trained, armed, clothed and fed Army in the field and defeat the Yankees at Manassas? Where did all the supplies and grey uniforms come from? How do you train an Army in secret? What means of communication did they use to accomplish all this in such a short time? Remember Fort Sumter was fired on in April!