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Gun that killed Dillinger can be yours
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 18, 2009 | Sandra Guy

Posted on 07/03/2009 8:17:16 AM PDT by re_tail20

A Colt Army Special revolver used by East Chicago, Ind., police Capt. Timothy A. O'Neil to fatally shoot John Dillinger could be yours for what auctioneers say may be much more than their conservative $8,000 to $12,000 estimate.

The .38-caliber, 5-inch-barrel gun and its holster will be auctioned at noon July 28 -- six days after the 75th anniversary of Dillinger's fatal shooting -- at Chicago's Leslie Hindman Auctioneers, 1338 W. Lake. The new Dillinger movie, "Public Enemies," premieres in Chicago tonight and opens July 1.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; dillinger
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1 posted on 07/03/2009 8:17:16 AM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

You can buy it unless you are a resident of Chicago.....


2 posted on 07/03/2009 8:19:22 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: re_tail20

Guns don’t kill people....


3 posted on 07/03/2009 8:20:37 AM PDT by StandUpChuck
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To: Erik Latranyi
Good observation.

Nice piece, if you've got the money:


4 posted on 07/03/2009 8:23:40 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Yeah, another great American company destroyed by unions....Colt.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 8:28:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
I was thinking the same thing about Colt the other day. I've been looking for a short-barreled 1911-style .45 for concealed carry, and came upon an older Colt piece. I was admiring the craftsmanship and tight tolerances; how well everything fit together and the "Made in Hartford, Conn., USA" stamp on the barrel.

It may be that the union and management both share some blame - the organization for inflexibility and the company for not anticipating changes in its key markets (as when police forces and military units began to move to the 9mm round). Whatever the cause, quality has certainly suffered after they reorganized as an LLC.

7 posted on 07/03/2009 8:44:02 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: re_tail20

Saw the Depp/Dillinger movie last night. I liked it quite a bit. Pretty good Michael Mann crime drama. Certainly not elite, like the Godfather or The Departed ... but comparable to Heat.

SnakeDoc


8 posted on 07/03/2009 8:44:06 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: andy58-in-nh
It may be that the union and management both share some blame - the organization for inflexibility and the company for not anticipating changes in its key markets (as when police forces and military units began to move to the 9mm round). Whatever the cause, quality has certainly suffered after they reorganized as an LLC.

I am getting a bit sick of blaming management for out-of-control unions.

The deck is stacked in favor of unions...the laws, regulatory agencies, etc. Management has little chance standing up to them.....especially in a company that does business with government, like Colt.

This whole "blame unions and management equally" is like being afraid to say that crime runs rampant among young, black males, so you blame youth of all races.

9 posted on 07/03/2009 8:52:34 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Unions are certainly responsible for a great deal of mischief, but don't underestimate the ability of management to screw up as well. They make plenty of unforced errors that have nothing to do with unions (remember that more than 90% of private business are not unionized).

In my experience, many of those errors have to do with short-sightedness often abetted by the need to meet a government mandate rather than a market requirement. That's one reason why the unions love big government - they benefit financially from expenditures that add no value to the product and often reduce its quality while the cost is passed along to you, the consumer.

In that way, government bureaucrats get to act like they're doing something important, businesses act like they're doing their customers a favor, and the unions get to act like they give a Bleep about anything other than lining their own pockets.

10 posted on 07/03/2009 9:01:23 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: re_tail20

I had the pleasure a few years back, through the good graces of a friend with connections at the FBI academy, to actually handle one of Dillinger’s guns, a plain-jane 1911. Got goosebumps all over thinking of who might have ended up on the wrong side of that barrel.


11 posted on 07/03/2009 9:05:32 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Saw it opening day. Great flick. Lousy history. Depp did his usual fine job. So did Christian Bale and Stephen Lang.


12 posted on 07/03/2009 9:11:43 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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My family is from the Shawano area of Wisconsin. My grandpa’s sisters and my grandma used to go to dances up in that area. They grew up with Billie Freschette and were friends with her. Anyway, they knew Dillinger and used to dance with him. They said that he was a very stylish dresser and an awesome dancer. He was very quiet. I think that it is possible that the many in town helped hide him out. They lived near “Little Bohemia.” After he was killed, law enforcement had Billie go on the road and do talks on why it wasn’t a good idea to be a mobster’s girlfriend. Billie was not the “lady in red.” She was in prison at the time.

Billie was French and Indian, her family on the the local res. She was beautiful. Unfortunately, there was a great deal of prejudice then. My relatives were refused service at bars because they were thought to be Indian (they were French Canadian), and were referred to the “Indian bars.”


13 posted on 07/03/2009 9:25:59 AM PDT by Enough_Deceit (Proud Mama of a US Marine and a US Soldier Bitterly Hanging On to Her Guns and Religion. Ooorahh!)
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Enough_Deceit said: "I think that it is possible that the many in town helped hide him out. "

A whole generation grew up after the Crash of '29 not trusting banks. Many might have viewed Dillinger's work with a degree of envy.

14 posted on 07/03/2009 10:21:09 AM PDT by William Tell
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Knowing those people, I think you are on to something. My dad was born in 1930 and hated banks. He always talked about “Bohemian Banking” where you would put your money in a can and bury it in the yard. LOL!


15 posted on 07/03/2009 12:46:58 PM PDT by Enough_Deceit (Proud Mama of a US Marine and a US Soldier Bitterly Hanging On to Her Guns and Religion. Ooorahh!)
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To: re_tail20

I thought melvin purvis shot him


16 posted on 07/03/2009 12:50:11 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: andy58-in-nh

thats a six shot, not five


17 posted on 07/03/2009 12:50:35 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Look at the Para Ordnance 1911s. they have some single stack pieces that would be just what you are looking for. One is basically a lightweight commander that actually seems to work with all types of 45 acp rounds.

And now para is made in florida, instead of Canada.


18 posted on 07/03/2009 12:52:25 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Armedanddangerous

Melvin Purvis did shoot him along with the other officers.
It’s a six shot, five inch barreled revolver.
I’m trying to buy American from now on. Look at Kimber or Springfield Armory.


19 posted on 07/03/2009 5:38:32 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: F15Eagle

From what I’ve read since seeing the current film on July 1, Dillinger lived a short life, not surprising given his way of living. He was born 6-22-03 died 7-22-34. Ripe old age of 31. The current movie is very good. I liked it (being a woman)and I am sure men would like it even more. Depp, whom I do not like personally, gave a good performance, as did Christian Bale as Agent Purvis and I especially liked the character Billie(Evelyn)Frechette. I looked under “dillinger” on FR last night and found a good article on Dillinger’s life. It was an article posted last July.


20 posted on 07/03/2009 10:00:10 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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