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To: Red Steel
The Republican governor of Hawaii reportedly said that the birth certificate posted online by Obama is legitimate:

Even the Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican who at the time was stumping for John McCain, said it was on the up-and-up.

link: http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

5 posted on 07/01/2009 9:55:21 PM PDT by Scheneida
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To: Scheneida

Just got here?


9 posted on 07/01/2009 10:00:00 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: Scheneida
Even the Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican who at the time was stumping for John McCain, said it was on the up-and-up.

No she did not....You got a direct Lingle quote on that??

Hawaii has never said that the image of the short form COLB posted on "factcheck".org and DailyKOS was an authentic Hawaiian COLB or the information on the allege form jived with what was on Obama's long form certificate on file.

14 posted on 07/01/2009 10:02:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Scheneida

“The Republican governor of Hawaii reportedly said that the birth certificate posted online by Obama is legitimate:”

Depends on what you call legitimate.
What was posted is only a standard form that is easy to get.
NO ONE, to my knowlege has EVER seen Obozo’s real certificate as issued first in the hospital.
That is what everyone is after.
Just to help you, newbie, this is what one from Hawaii, circa 1960s, looks like:

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/zczc3185/Birth_cert_coats_7c.jpg

Obots can try all they want to make this go away, but it will not until Ozo produces a REAL certificate.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 10:08:42 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Scheneida
Don't mean to be overly skeptical of a newby, but upon reading your link regarding BO’s LBC, this sounds too much like an Axlerod explanation. It ALMOST says the Governor verified it to be authentic, but still sounds like the HI Gov. has not seen the real thing first-hand, sorta like "depends on what the meaning of IS, is". Seminar poster?
22 posted on 07/01/2009 10:20:39 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: Scheneida
So the Department of Health uses an alleged original Obama birth certificate with the parents' names Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama and takes it upon themselves to change it to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama for the announcement they submit to the papers? Tell you what Scheneida, I'd like to see the hidden Obama Selective Service Registration, passports, Illinois Senate Records, medical records, college records, college thesis, adoption records, and the original birth certificate. The guy is a proven liar so indulge me with the documentation to back up the resume. The sanctity of the US Constitution is worth it.
26 posted on 07/01/2009 10:44:08 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Scheneida

arlen spector used to be a republican too - doesn’t mean much when the person’s a rino


34 posted on 07/02/2009 7:30:38 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Socialism is the financial arm of Communism)
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To: Scheneida
I am not a fan of politifact. They said they researched a article that I personally had researched and talked to the people involved. Their assessment was the story against obama was not true. But they did very little research on their own to see documents proving the story to be true.

This politifact article never asks why doesn't obama just show the original and stop all the questions?They never ask why obama is exempt from showing what we all must show to get a drivers license or passport. That would be too much investigating and too much thought.

World net daily keeps the information from multiple sources but then if MSM were doing their job they would not be the conductor of the birthers.

Moreover, the ad said, "members of the liberal elitist media...instead of pressing Gibbs on his outrageous statements...openly laughed."

And they did and I thought it was despicable. Basically obamas thugs threaten reporters. You either play my way or get out. This is the thugocracy and we as Americans have never seen anything like this in our lives.

Yes Gibbs lied. He knows what Obama had placed is not the original.

Some background: On June 13, 2008, after months of hounding by the media and wild Internet speculation that

Now see, without proof obama wasn't born in kenya (no one has said Indonesia, proves how bad their journalism is) then how can they as journalist say it is wild accusation? Think of this as a court proceeding and this is your only evidence. It was a wild accusation is not something that would prove anything in court.

Our friends from FactCheck.org went to Chicago, held the document in their questioning hands and examined it closely. Their conclusion: it's legit.

Factcheck and mediamatters and bought and paid for Obama supporters. George Soros has his hands in both. The main goal here is to keep the public from knowing the truth. And remember no one was allowed to hold or touch the BC during the press junket. Why media matters?

Obama went on to tell Dodd, just don't let the media touch your mortgage documents and they can't read you really got a sweetheart loan as I did.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

So he has seen it. But what type was it? Had it been amended? Was it a late or delayed bc which is not citizenship? We would have to take obama to court to prove that, without the original we can't do anything. SCOTUS might even say the late BC was citizenship if Sotomayor gets in.

I have never seen any comment from Linda Lingle that she saw the BC as you posted?All I have ever seen is Fukino's statement. But with a adoption the original is sealed normally. The no state official instructed anyone to seal would be correct. It would have happened with state officials or courts that are dead more than likely.

Some on the Internet speculate that the original "long form" - which might include the hospital where he was born as well as the attending physician - might show Obama was foreign born - and ineligible to be president - but that that wouldn't show up on the "short form."

See this is stupid. They did no research and they will in the end declare the whole case closed. Nothing they have printed has anything to do with truth. All they had to do was look at obamasBC he posted and know there is no hospital.

Moreover, WorldNetDaily claims even the State of Hawaii doesn't accept "Certification of Live Birth" as proof that an individual was physically born in Hawaii.

No government agency anywhere in the US takes the short form. The DHHL is true and obama would not qualify for anything because he would refuse to show his original. How much time would it take to look this up? The point is they will not because they are in the tank for obama.

Hawaii no longer hands out certificate of live birth but they are preferred for ancestry research. Why this has no bearing on Obama is he has no back ground anyone can search except his books. When people do search they find the information obamahas given is false and non traceable. And if DHHL asked for obama to turn over his original he would refuse. And don't tell me obama cannot get the original because I have a vault full for my children. And another thing you can bet anyone wanting to claim land would jolly well hand over anything requested.

I can confirm hawaii prints out a BC similar to one Obama has for genealogy. But the original is there. "When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site," she said. "That's the birth certificate."

Why does it say certiifcation then? If this were remotely true we would have SCOTUS decision in writing and get all of this over with once and for all. And obama would not be spending over a million to stop the courts from seeing the original. Just recently after asking over 60 days extra they are, cheney included, now asking for dismissal because they cannot answer with truth.

As for the theory that Obama's original birth certificate might show he was foreign born, Okubo said the "Certification of Live Birth" would say so. Obama's does not. Again, it says he was born in Honolulu.

Not if the original had been amended. The short form would only have the newest information printed out. I don't recall a area for foreign born on obamas BC. This was aout and out obfuscation. He didn't lie, he just ommitted.

In Honolulu, the Obama tour buses take you by the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, now called Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children. Federal laws prohibit hospital officials from confirming that he was born there, but Hoover said it's common knowledge among locals.

gee obamas sister said he was born in two different hospitals. strange, why are babies being born in hospitals in newspapers if there is a federal law. They are speaking about hipaa laws. Obama could come out and say he was born there and allow the hospital to speak easily. obama does not ever speak out because he knows eventually he will get caught. he lets axelturf spin for him. whats the big deal about what hospital you were born in? Because obama is lying.

Sure they rule the statement as false. I rule them as false. Did all of Hawaiians cover up for obama? I think more they omitted to not get in trouble.

Obama can speak out and say, there is no other BC, this is the only type, the only one. But he is silent. Using campaign donations to stop the courts from taking action. Now he wants the feds to go to court for him for free.

35 posted on 07/02/2009 7:59:31 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Scheneida

Well, in the first place, Linda Lingle is the Christie Whitman of Hawaii.

And in the second place, that’s not a quotation from Lingle. It is a statement by Politifact, with no source given, and as far as I know is another lie.

Politifact is another leftist propaganda site. And they just won the famously left-wing Pulitzer Prize to reward them for it.


37 posted on 07/02/2009 9:24:13 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Scheneida

I will only believe it when we see the original.


41 posted on 07/02/2009 10:12:09 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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