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Most AZ high school students would fail US citizenship test
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Rhonda Bodfield

Posted on 07/01/2009 5:01:26 PM PDT by SandRat

You know those groan-inducing spots on late-night television when the typical person-on-the-street can't identify the vice president?

That's akin to what happened to the state's education system Tuesday, with the issuance of a new report that found only 3.5 percent of traditional public high school students would be able to pass a U.S. citizenship test— bombing out on questions such as who was America's first president, who wrote the Declaration of Independence and what do we call the first 10 amendments to the Constitution.

There's little room to be smug from the charter school or private school arenas. While they both did better, they still did poorly, with only 7 percent and 14 percent of those students passing the test, respectively, according to a survey by the Goldwater Institute, a conservative think tank.

"I was dismayed and shocked at just how poorly the kids did," said Matthew Ladner, vice president of research. "When 74 percent can't tell you that George Washington was the first president of the U.S., that's really disturbing."

The question the students did best on was really more of a geography question: 58 percent were able to name the Atlantic Ocean as the body of water on the East Coast.

The study, conducted in November 2008, asked 1,350 public high school students 10 questions pulled at random from a list of 100 on the U.S. citizenship test. A similar number of private school students were polled in a separate sample in the same period.

The standard on the citizenship test is that the applicant must be able to answer at least six of 10 questions correctly on the test, which is not multiple choice.

The results come as teachers focus less on the memorization of discrete facts, given that information is so readily available at the stroke of a key, and more on the application of knowledge.

Ladner said that philosophy "is entirely wrongheaded. It's very much like learning to compose music. You have to learn your scales before you compose a symphony — and you need some foundation of facts before you can do higher-level thinking."

But John Wright, the head of the state teachers union, the Arizona Education Association, dismissed the report as a "gotcha piece of writing."

"I think there's already an ongoing discussion of standards and assessment, but it is not informed by this kind of survey," he said, adding that for all of its shock value, he didn't find it very analytical.

Ronald Marx, the dean of the University of Arizona's College of Education, said he wasn't pleased to hear the findings but said he was more concerned than alarmed. "You don't develop a deep understanding of how government works by knowing the name of the first 10 amendments to the Constitution," he said.

Marx said rather than have students memorize 10 facts about science, for example, the students can be asked one big question — such as how to create a sustainable environment in a water-parched desert — and learn the underlying facts in the process.

University High School student Victor Almazan, a sophomore, said there was little focus on American history last year because of an emphasis on Western civilization. Yet he describes his classmates as very engaged in the last presidential election, from having classwide discussions to the point of holding mock elections.

Still, he said, he was concerned about the findings. "If you don't know who Thomas Jefferson is, then you're not educated on other topics of social studies," the 15-year-old said.

Although the Goldwater Institute often clashes with public educators on policy issues, it's not the only one raising questions about civic education.

The Center for Education Policy, a public-school advocacy organization that has been tracking the impact of the No Child Left Behind act, found in 2007 that schools were pumping up math and reading instruction by sacrificing other disciplines. A third of the districts surveyed reported cutting social studies, prompting the National Council for the Social Studies to declare it was "increasingly alarmed" by the erosion of social studies.

And if the goal of civic education is civic participation, that has been found by other researchers — perhaps most notably by Robert Putnam's "Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community" — to be on the decline.

The Goldwater report advocates requiring students to pass a citizenship exam, administered by a third party, either as a graduation requirement or to get into college.

Tucson Unified School District Governing Board member Adelita Grijalva said she was concerned about the findings, but was wary of adding civics to the already-long list of testing mandates.

Contact reporter Rhonda Bodfield at 806-7754 or rbodfield@azstarnet.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arth; citizenship; civicseducation; education; schools
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TEST YOURSELF

1. What is the supreme law of the land? Answer: The Constitution. correct 29.5 percent

2. What do we call the first 10 amendments to the Constitution? Answer: The Bill of Rights. correct 25 percent

3. What are the two parts of the U.S. Congress? Answer: The Senate and the House. correct 23 percent

4. How many justices are on the Supreme Court? Answer: Nine. correct 9.4 percent

5. Who wrote the Declaration of Independence? Answer: Thomas Jefferson. correct 25.3 percent

6. What ocean is on the East Coast of the United States? Answer: Atlantic. correct 58.8 percent

7. What are the two major political parties in the United States? Answer: Democratic and Republican. correct 49.6 percent

8. We elect a U.S. senator for how many years? Answer: Six. correct 14.5 percent

9. Who was the first president? Answer: Washington. correct 26.5 percent

10. Who is in charge of the executive branch? Answer: The president. correct 26 percent

1 posted on 07/01/2009 5:01:26 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

uh...I just missed #4....I said 7. lol


2 posted on 07/01/2009 5:05:33 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: SandRat
Yeeks. I remember those questions...some of them were on my citizenship test!

The one that would really get 'em would be "in what year was the Constitution ratified and where (what city)."

3 posted on 07/01/2009 5:06:40 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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To: SandRat; metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime

I’m willing to bet that you’d see similar results in other states.


4 posted on 07/01/2009 5:06:45 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

How do you think they generate Obama voters?


5 posted on 07/01/2009 5:06:52 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SandRat
I am not exaggerating. The goal of the public school system and leftist private and charter schools is to make your kids STUPID or DUMB - take your pick. They constantly water things down and lower the standards.

You still think I'm exaggerating. Okay. Look at the S.A.T.. They took out analogies because kids were clueless and replaced analogies with a subjective essay to write. This gives them wiggle room without a right/wrong answer dilemma. Kids were tanking on analogies so something easier was put in. Analogies require CLEAR THINKING AND LOGIC - it had to go. If you are not a home schooler, become a closet home schooler otherwise your child will join the stupid and the dumb.

6 posted on 07/01/2009 5:09:46 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SandRat

Two generations of public education and leftist controlled media means that we are very close to the marxist takeover/coup that Yuri Bezmenov predicted back in the ‘80’s. I don’t believe it can be stopped now.


7 posted on 07/01/2009 5:09:52 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 2Jedismom; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; Antoninus; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

8 posted on 07/01/2009 5:10:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SandRat
My daughter learned that in second grade. In first grade she recited the Gettysburg Address.

Since then I've added more meat to it. I also keep her informed on what is going on.

I made sure she knew it.

I have my own required reading list. She's in fourth grade now and cruising through Animal Farm. She must write a summary for each chapter. Other required readings include, the Communist Manifesto, The Humanist Manifesto and the Christian Manifesto. When she is done with Animal Farm, I will then require her to write a compare and contrast essay on all three.

After the news, thank God ... she's learned to play the harp and settles me down. I am LIVID at what is going on in DC with these imbeciles.

9 posted on 07/01/2009 5:14:03 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SandRat

This is a dog bites man story. Call me back when you have a story about well educated students instead of public school drones.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 5:15:42 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: SandRat
Most AZ high school students would fail US citizenship test

Are most AZ high school students (?) citizens??? /sarc

11 posted on 07/01/2009 5:22:11 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: gorush
Two generations of public education and leftist controlled media means that we are very close to the marxist takeover/coup that Yuri Bezmenov predicted back in the ‘80’s. I don’t believe it can be stopped now.
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I agree. I am on these message boards **daily** crying out to conservatives to remove their children from the government K-12 schools and to work mightily to shut them DOWN! Conservative must work to set up tuition-free, conservative, private alternatives!

I feel like Jeremiah of the Old Testament.

Yuri Bezmenov was right. The “demoralization” is complete. Only “remoralization” can save this nation. Sadly conservatives are clueless!

12 posted on 07/01/2009 5:23:29 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

That’s alright, I got #5 wrong, I said “God”


13 posted on 07/01/2009 5:24:49 PM PDT by gore_sux (Al Franken - Preferred by Minnesota Educated Somali Pirates and Suicide Bombers Everywhere)
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To: SandRat

One is sometimes tempted to favor Heinlein’s solution regarding voting status. As it is, this country is headed for a fall.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 5:44:02 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: SandRat
I love the way the educrats claim that the mind is this fragile vessel that can hold only a tiny bit of information, as if the mind is an old 8 kb memory chip. Thus, the argument that one cannot remember the name of the first president and remember how to put on a condom, so the schools need to teach the latter. Remembering facts about WWII is too hard and irrelevant, so better to teach a class about contemporary pop stars.

The mind is almost limitless, given enough time. If you learn the basics of math you have the foundation to learn advanced math. If you have a good education in world history you are in a better place to learn the history of Argentina or Mesopotamia or wherever. If you study Latin, it will help you learn Spanish or Italian. But the educrats claim that children should barely be taught basic skills because if they are crowded with basic facts they will not have enough room for advanced facts. If children are taught basic math too well, someday their little minds will not have enough room for College Algebra or Calculus. What insanity.

15 posted on 07/01/2009 5:50:00 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

LOL! I remembered that they’ve had lots of 5:4 decisions lately...


16 posted on 07/01/2009 5:57:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TXnMA

ack....That’s right....now I’m REALLY embarrassed.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 5:59:23 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: SandRat

My nine year old missed only two.

She didn’t know the term of a Senator and thought there were eight justices.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 7:24:36 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: SandRat

The correct answer to #7 is Republican and Communist.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 5:39:07 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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