[Blackacre]

Translation -- what most people prefer is good and vice versa. So, you are simply saying that if most people prefer something, that *something* is good in itself ?

What I'm saying is that rational people can look at the history of societies and how they functioned and use that as a basis for their own rulemaking. Not surprisingly, functional societies (the US, Japan, Monaco) end up having many of the same rules while dysfunctional societies (Somalia, Zimbabwe) do not.

You don't need religion to tell you that a society that allows people to kill each other without consequences is one no rational person wants to live in.

[SeekAndFind]

You don't need religion to tell you that a society that allows people to kill each other without consequences is one no rational person wants to live in.

Remember, in a Dawkinsian worldview, we are all but chance products of the accidental collision of atoms. "Rational" and "Irrational" are simply NATURE working itself out. Is there anything irrational about a tsunami or an earthquake or a hurricane ?

Same principle applies to HUMANS ( the mere product of cosmic collisions ).

[Zionist Conspirator]

You don't need religion to tell you that a society that allows people to kill each other without consequences is one no rational person wants to live in.

And of course, we all know that the whole point of morality is social utilitarianism, don't we?

Something tells me you would be less than careful in carrying out an animal sacrifice.