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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“You’ll probably get flamed.”

Surprisingly, didn’t get flamed. As you mention, a lot of people are beginning to realize that this isn’t just some casual disagreement we have with our opposition, that we are in a genuine war.

I have noticed a shifting of opinion on here, towards more seriousness. And I have also noticed all altogether overdue toughening beginning on our side. We’ll need to be tough-minded for what is to come.


356 posted on 07/01/2009 8:12:25 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: raptor29
Don't underestimate the effect the church has played. I read and study voluminously and have just begun looking into the history of Socialism creeping in to the pulpit.

From what I've found so far, it appears to have had the same origin as Socialism creeping into academe. Whether it was intentional or not or whether there were some original crossover teachers at a prominent university that had a broad audience, I'm not sure. If so, it was probably John Ruskin.

But what they did was switch Christianity from a focus on the individual saving himself, getting himself right with God, and then living a “good” life so that he stays right with God to a “collective Christianity” that was call “social Christianity.” Does any of this sound familiar yet?

The two major impacts this had was in reinterpreting the Biblical warnings against loving money and desiring wealth in place of desiring a pure relationship with God and the concept of tolerance.

In terms of wealth, the socialists in the pulpit taught generations that profit is evil, having more than you need is evil, not giving your money away is evil and that the poor are purer in spirit because they are not corrupted by money. The economic Marxism here is plain for anyone to see. It is wrong because the NT is based on the OT, so we need to take them together as a complete book. Forsaking the virtues to pursue extreme wealth such that your wealth becomes your primary focus and guide is contrary to Biblical instruction. However, the Bible also teaches us to be financially independent and to be good steward with the “blessings” of financial soundness for two reasons: 1. we don't have to take from others and weaken them, and 2. by being strong we are able to help out those who fall on bad times. The lesson of Jesus’ anger at the money changers is an excellent example of how perverse the Socialist interpretation of this is. The money changers took a profit from those seeking true worship of God. If we put the State in charge of financial welfare, the State will similarly control money and therefore people's liberty.

The second Biblical precept that has been perverted by the Socialists has been that of tolerance. They have amplified the passages of the “meek inheriting the earth” and “turning the other cheek” both of which have to do with spreading the word of Christ and salvation, not being so complacent that you offend none.

Christ went to the den of sinners, but he did not sin. And he did hide what he knew to be good and right so as not to offend, so as to win their approval and bring them into his fold. Quite the contrary. When you combine the OT and the NT the message is clear: do not willfully forsake the instructions God has provided for us. If you do, not only will you anger Him, which he will forgive, but, more importantly (for our sakes) we will mess up our own lives. Tolerating extreme sinfulness gets us Sodom and Gomorrah. Tolerating the Socialist view of “charity” gets us the failed Socialist/communist states that history has provided us as a clear example of sound financial stewardship. It gets us homosexuals in the pulpit preaching that God “doesn't mind.”

My point in elucidating this is simple. Even God-loving and God-fearing Christian conservatives have been so brainwashed by those in the pulpit (almost all of whom have gone through the Socialist teaching in one theological seminary or another, even many of the “Conservative” preachers — look how many evangelicals are on-board with the Marxist global-warming hoax) that they truly believe they must not resist this blatantly anti-God march toward Socialism/Communism. They sit by passively “meekly” thinking they are doing God's work by loving those screaming, red, angry faces and shaking fists and flag-burning haters and feel all warm and tingly thinking how happy their pastor would be. They don't protest because they don't want to be among the “fringe” that are ridiculed by the MSM and pop culture.

There is a time for love and there is a time for hate, there is a time for peace and a time for war. When those who hate us and our beliefs declare war on us, it is our duty to fight back. Love has been used against us. Tolerance has been used against us.

I do not hate them, I hate what they stand for. I hate the arrogance with which they push their views onto others. I hate their criminality in forcing their views on us. I hate their insult to God. I hate their theft. I hate their oppression. I hate their slavery. I hate their ridicule (which is hatred with a smile).

And I will not tolerate it.

377 posted on 07/02/2009 4:22:40 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: raptor29

“Surprisingly, didn’t get flamed. As you mention, a lot of people are beginning to realize that this isn’t just some casual disagreement we have with our opposition, that we are in a genuine war.”

I’m seeing this in my family. The commie wing whines that we just have to agree to disagree. I’m now telling them no. I don’t agree to disagree. They, and others like them, are working to destroy what I hold dear and I will not agree to disagree. They might be family, but some things are more important even than family. They might be my family but they are also my enemies. I see no other way. I educate them as I can, but I make it clear that these things matter and they are not my friends.

In the end, they hate what I love and love what I hate...where’s the family in that anyway?


398 posted on 07/02/2009 11:32:44 AM PDT by vigilo
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