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Cap and Trade - Full Text (1428 pages!)
Library of Congress-GPO ^ | 6/29/09 | Henry Waxman

Posted on 07/01/2009 6:01:58 AM PDT by erkyl

111TH CONGRESS 1ST SESSION H. R. 2454 AN ACT To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy.

(Excerpt) Read more at frwebgate.access.gpo.gov ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; cap; capandtrade; environment; hr2454; trade; transcript; waxman; waxmanmarkey
I know many of you are looking for a good 'summer' read. Let's pick this thing apart before the Senate gets it.
1 posted on 07/01/2009 6:01:58 AM PDT by erkyl
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To: erkyl
I'll become extremely familiar with it. I will read a portion of it. I don't it's fair to ask me if I'll read the entire bill because I'll soon be very familiar with it.
2 posted on 07/01/2009 6:11:45 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: erkyl
-- Let's pick this thing apart before the Senate gets it. --

The bill is worth study for the purpose of ridiculing the House, but not with an eye toward influencing the Senate. The Senate is more likely to either pass its own bill (lock stock and barrel substitute amendment to the House-passed thing), or ignore the bill altogether, than it is to pick up what the House passed and piecemeal amend it. The Senate is totally unresponsive to the will of the people. It's basically an expensive freak show.

As far as studying the bill goes, I've found that certain statutory "chunks" tend to reappear in multiple bills, until eventual passage. This process can take years (see Matthew Shepherd hate crimes for an example).

3 posted on 07/01/2009 6:19:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: erkyl

Wait until Federal House Inspectors descend upon every home owner to tell the owner how much he can sell his house for. Popcorn time!


4 posted on 07/01/2009 6:20:39 AM PDT by pabianice
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How will he/she sell when no one will have any money? Or by then, a job?

Just keep reminding the idiots this is what they voted for on November 4, 2008. That is what I do .


5 posted on 07/01/2009 6:25:22 AM PDT by sport
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To: erkyl

Ping...


6 posted on 07/01/2009 6:28:48 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: erkyl

To many stupid Americans who do not know this is an energy tax that will destroy our country’s economy and the leftist communist politicians know it (they are so violent and brazen but most fool democrat voters don’t.


7 posted on 07/01/2009 6:29:14 AM PDT by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord Jesus, help us.)
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To: sport

“How will he/she sell when no one will have any money?

Or by then, a job?”

Why that is the beauty of Obomanomics.

No job but a “cheap” mortgage to keep you in your house.

Of course no jobs isn’t a problem because companies won’t be able to afford employees.

I know, it’s sounds odd but that’s Obamanomics.

It’s lunacy!

Guess we’ll just have to throw MORE MOENY at the problem.


8 posted on 07/01/2009 6:29:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ohhhh

It’s hard to listen or read the news.

It’s totally INSANE.

It pains me to literally see our economy being destroyed -

LITERALLY DESTROYED for no rational reason.

We WILL be a third world country.


9 posted on 07/01/2009 6:30:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pabianice

That was one of my major concerns, so I contacted the National Association of Realtors. Their website alleged that they lobbied to prevent the bill from including existing homes. I emailed them and I was directed by a member of the NAR to page 392 of the act, which indicates that nothing in that section on building energy standards applies to existing homes, only homes built after enactment.

Evidently, we are just fear mongerers. LOL.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 6:39:24 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 07/01/2009 6:42:12 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: RebelTXRose

later - look for abortion funding


12 posted on 07/01/2009 6:45:06 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: erkyl

ping for home reading


13 posted on 07/01/2009 7:17:52 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: erkyl

bookmark


14 posted on 07/01/2009 7:57:06 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: erkyl

The Senators won’t read it. They’ll just vote for it.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 8:08:29 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: erkyl
Bastards! Can't seem to dnld/save a copy.
16 posted on 07/01/2009 12:20:23 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal

hmmm...I just did and had no trouble. I can send you the .pdf if you want.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 12:25:35 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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"hmmm...I just did and had no trouble."

I'll try again....maybe it's just another senior moment...{:-(

18 posted on 07/01/2009 12:54:17 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: erkyl
Here is a clip of Waxman responding about cap and trade thru his nostril.

YouTube

19 posted on 07/02/2009 5:59:02 AM PDT by New Perspective (My 5 yr old son has Down Syndrome, are you going to kill him too Obama?)
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