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Population growth has not busted China or India (their populations won't shrink from their own population control programs for another 30 years when the people from before those measures die off.) Most of the world's most densely populated nations (Taiwan/Free China, S. Korea, Netherlands) are also among the most developed.

My idea of America is wide open spaces, not smelly crowds....I want to hunt the Rockies or Missouri Breaks or the Adirondacks or southern farms and old plantations...or the great southwestern deserts, pacific northwest, or the wilderness of Alaska, without being shoulder to shoulder with crowds. The cities are what has caused the liberal vote that has gotten us in the trouble we are in today....if asian crowding, the Indian Caste system or Dutch legalization of prostitution/drugs is your idea of development....you can have it...but do it elsewhere and don't spoil America.

My idea of America is wide open spaces, not smelly crowds....I want to hunt the Rockies or Missouri Breaks or the Adirondacks or southern farms and old plantations...if asian crowding, the Indian Caste system or Dutch legalization of prostitution/drugs is your idea of development

Using that argument, of course, maybe the Americans Indians were right, as that's what they wanted. The fact is the places you mention ARE empty. People move to Charlotte or Denver or Houston. They don't move to the Adirondacks or the Rockies or the Missouri breaks. The whole midwest is filled with ghost towns.

This is the same argument that the enviro-nuts use. I'm sorry, but I will not think of any of God's children as locusts, and while I certainly do not approve of illegal immigration, closing the door will make us grow old and wither like Europe. My point regarding India, Asia and the Dutch was not that we should emulate them. It simply meant that population density does not equal poverty. My other examples of Zimbabwe and Somalia show that lack of density does not equal wealth.

We would all perhaps want a beautiful Garden of Eden if it would be possible. But it is not. We have to be moral and just. The kinds of laws it would take to bring America to 100 million or 200 million would be odious.