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Schwarzenegger calls for two-tier state pension system
Sacramento Bee ^ | 6/30/9 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 06/30/2009 7:31:32 AM PDT by SmithL

California public employee unions already reeling from pay cuts have been dealt a new blow by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger – a push to lower pension and retiree health care benefits for state workers hired after today.

Schwarzenegger's call for creation of a two-tier system of retiree benefits was part of a package of proposals submitted to Democratic leaders Saturday in tense negotiations over the state's $24.3 billion shortfall.

The plan would not affect existing state employees.

The governor previously had imposed about a 9 percent pay cut on state workers by requiring two unpaid furlough days per month. Last week he threatened to add a third furlough day unless a budget deal was struck immediately.

"Attacking hard-earned pensions, on top of a pay cut, does not solve the crisis," said Yvonne Walker, president of Service Employees International Union Local 1000.

"The governor should go after larger dollars that will make an impact now, by closing corporate tax loopholes and putting a stop to $34 billion in wasteful vendor contracts," Walker said in a written statement.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said he is willing to consider pension changes but will not be ramrodded by the governor.

"The entire issue of pension reform deserves real consideration in the Legislature, but it's not right to jam it into a budget agreement in (the final) hours," Steinberg said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: goldenstate; pension; unionthugs; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 06/30/2009 7:31:32 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Unless the state and city plans are converted to defined contribution plans..they will bankrupt the state and local govts. They no longer can afford to offer defined benefit plans at 100% of the final years pay. It just isn’t possible. The change needs to be retroactive, not just for new employees. We may need bankruptcy to trigger this change..so let’s do it.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 7:37:21 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SmithL

Ohhh, that’s gonna hurt.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 7:37:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmithL
Why not? The federal government has done it to military retirement twice in the last 20 years or so. What bothers me is when you make a deal and they reneg on it, free health care for retirees, Ha Ha Ha. Disabled Vets, you gotta be kidding. Never expect a politician to honor a deal made in the last legislative session. every session is a new deal and you get the cards you are dealt. The House always comes out ahead.
4 posted on 06/30/2009 7:38:06 AM PDT by dblshot
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a push to lower pension and retiree health care benefits for state workers hired after today.

That sounds fair. I mean everyone is grandfathered and if someone is hired after today they know the benefits that they are hired for and then they can make a choice of sacrificing for the good of the state state for a smaller paycheck or becoming greedier by getting a significantly higher paycheck on the civilian side.

5 posted on 06/30/2009 7:45:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: dblshot

Reagan is the one who lowered the retirement for military.


6 posted on 06/30/2009 7:46:44 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SmithL

Pay and pension cuts for state employees? Why, how cruel...asking these people to live they way employees of actual businesses do. Good grief, just raise taxes on the evil rich!


7 posted on 06/30/2009 8:05:22 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldexpat
Unless the state and city plans are converted to defined contribution plans..they will bankrupt the state and local govts. They no longer can afford to offer defined benefit plans at 100% of the final years pay. It just isn’t possible. The change needs to be retroactive, not just for new employees. We may need bankruptcy to trigger this change..so let’s do it.

Definitely has to be retroactive and the only way to get these rip-off pensions revisited is via bankruptcy
I see a scheme/scam here that Schwarzenegger will beg for Federal money soon and he wants to be able to say "We are solving our problems. Just look at how we changed the pension system" Of course being non-retroactive

8 posted on 06/30/2009 8:11:54 AM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: SmithL

Pensions in the private sector are being replaced by 401K matching contribution plans (and as of late, the matching contributions are being pared down). It’s a hard sell to expect that people in the private sector be taxed to the hilt to fund cushy pension benefits for the public sector that they don’t enjoy themselves.


9 posted on 06/30/2009 8:38:08 AM PDT by randita
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“California public employee unions already reeling from pay cuts have been dealt a new blow by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger – a push to lower pension and retiree health care benefits for state workers hired after today.”

This is the way you create classes in your society.

This country has no room for doing this, as we should be treated equal.

SCOTUS just ruled that you cannot discriminate.


10 posted on 06/30/2009 8:45:20 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: napscoordinator
Reagan is the one who lowered the retirement for military.
Yep, but he also gave me a nice payraise, $120/month which since I was living on $60 a month at an isolated duty station, the rest of my pay and allowances going to the wife and kids, doubled my beer money!
11 posted on 06/30/2009 8:52:02 AM PDT by dblshot
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Social Security should be the ONLY RETIREMENT PLAN for Public Employees and Public Servants...


12 posted on 06/30/2009 9:18:54 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: bestintxas

Forgot the </src>?


13 posted on 06/30/2009 5:58:57 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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