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Posted on 06/29/2009 4:39:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
I’ve been told that there is no way the Senate will pass this legislation. However, I am unsure this is true given so many members will benefit financially from this legislation. What have others heard?
Of course “Cap & Trade” won’t cost consumers anything... If they simply stop buying things that require energy, there won’t be any increased costs.
Those “in charge” seem to want to reduce the vast majority of people to a subsistence form of living, where we have just enough to survive, while “they” have all they could want.
They have these grand plans to reshape society to their view of the future. The last time I remember this happening was in Cambodia, by Pohl Pot. Ask the Cambodians how that worked out...
Mark
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“...but the joke is on us.”
The joke IS us.
IMHO
The problem with this is that it's cutting off what's working.....betting on "new" technology to take up and overtake what exists.
We should have drilled in Alaska, constructed 20 nuclear plants along with increasing our coal products....10 years ago.
This legislation paints us into a corner....
I’ll be right back. I’m going down to the river to wash my clothes on the rocks because I can no longer afford my washer and drier FEES.
He's close. It's a FUEL RATIONING bill. Under it, you can have all of the solar cells and wind mills you can find. It is fuel that is rationed.
That is what I heard too, and I agree with you, especially if the usual RINOS go along with the bill. And as we know Zerobama will not veto the bill
Plus, algore scores big time on this. He has been campaigning for this kind of regulation and he has set up companies that sell carbon credits.
I bet McCain will vote yes.
The ineffectual opposition to this travesty helps us to diagnose the cancer eating at the soul of the GOP, but it also may show the way forward.
First of all, this bill is not a tax bill, and it should not be opposed on that basis, at least not as a matter of principle. The question of what level of taxes are needed to support a specific level of public services is a pragmatic one, not one of principle.
Second, this bill is not about energy. It creates no new sources, nor does it identify new ways of exploiting old ones.
Thirdly, this bill is not about "jobs, jobs, jobs", except jobs for government workers. There is no way that the government can do anything to create private sector jobs.
So, what is the bill if it's not a tax bill, an energy bill, or a jobs bill, and why is it so upsetting to our people?
This bill is a comprehensive structure of tyranny, that's what is is. That's why most Congressional Democrats (but, note to the file, not all) and a few Congressional Republicans are for it. They're for it because they are baby tyrants who dream of imposing a comprehensive structure of regulation from Washington which will govern and regulate the most minute aspects of our private lives, and impose tight central control over our families and our property.
THAT'S what's wrong with this bill, THAT'S why it should be opposed, and most importantly, THAT'S the issue - the only issue - which can rally a majority to depose these wannabe dictators and restore Liberty for ourselves and our Posterity.
The other side may have a temporary majority on taxes. They may have a temporary majority on energy issues. They may have a temporary majority on jobs. Now, you and I know that these temporary majorities have been herded together my fear, by propaganda, and by misfeasance. No matter. We are governed by people who know that a crisis should never be allowed to go to waste.
But there is not a temporary majority for tyranny. There is not, and there never has been. When the People, Democrats and Republicans and others, got even a whiff of what these evildoers were up to in 1993-94, they threw the bums out in a massive landslide. Yes, the majority was wasted, yes, Newt was reckless and vain, but, by God, the People were made to speak with one voice on one issue, and the one issue is this:
"Every spot of the old world is overrun with oppression. Freedom hath been hunted round the globe. Asia, and Africa, have long expelled her.—Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind."
The issue is NOT abortion. The issue is NOT taxes. The issue is not capitalism, in fact, the issue has nothing to do with economic relations directly. The issue is NOT adultery, nor Christianity. It's not jobs, or medicine, or resource exploitation.
THE ISSUE IS FREEDOM. This bill, were it properly explained and publicized, claims the right and declares the intent "to bind us in all cases whatsoever", and "if being bound in that manner is not slavery, then there is not such a thing as slavery upon earth".
The American people are being sold on the fictitious ends of this legislation (energy, jobs,"investments") but they do not and will not subscribe to the means, especially when they are made to understand that the means in fact describe the true ends.
These ARE the times that try men's souls. Let's stand forth. Let's call tyranny by it's proper name. This bill is not "big government", it's a structure for tyranny.
Let's vote on tyranny vs. Liberty next time.
I honestly doubt that. I have never seen him voting with the liberals
I think you got something there
when is the senate vote?
Several weeks ago the ceo of Duke was blasting this nonsense but now I read they have been bought off.
You are 100%. It is about freedom. But we have learned in our nation’s history that a certain number of people are all too willing to sacrifice freedom for perceived security, i.e. the nanny state.
We have a growing segment of our populace who are partly or wholly dependent on government largesse. This is no accident of fate. It is a well planned and patiently executed master scheme, couched in feel good terms.
The treason he’s talking about is treason to the United Nations. It is cited 22 times in the cap and trade bill. The bill orders the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Energy to submit to the United Nations for direction in their regulatory efforts, fees and fines.
Somehow, this would not surprise me one bit!
Krugman is a big time A hole
Wackey-Marxman is just as the name implies, a socialist joke.
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