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To: MamaTexan
According to this, the debt foisted off on Texas for the cap-and-trade debacle is going to be even higher.

And if you leave then you don't have to worry about that, do you? We're talking about the bill that Texas presidents have run up to date.

Texas is NOT liable for what the federal government decides to do if it is outside of its enumerated powers to do so.

Yeah it is. LBJ and both Bush's are more responsible for it than any other president. You should be thankful we don't make you take on the whole thing.

Texas is one OF ONLY SEVEN States that are still fiscally solvent, and as the map shows, the primary beneficiaries are the most debited states.

And a $900 billion debt load should take care of that.

The feds can take their wealth-distribution debt created by their own unconstitutional actions and stick it where the sun don't shine.

And as far as I'm concerned Texas can wander off into the sunset and I won't lift a finger to stop you. But don't think that you can just walk away from the mess y'all did more than your share to create in the first place and leave it for the rest of us.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact!

Nor is it a club to beat the rest of us with on your way out the door.

74 posted on 06/29/2009 6:54:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
But don't think that you can just walk away from the mess y'all did more than your share to create in the first place and leave it for the rest of us.

When you use the term "Ya'll" remember that sounds all inclusive... I did not create one bit of the mess and I will not be held responsible.....

I suspect that should secession actually become a reality (a dream for now) other states will follow....quickly.

There shall be no cap and trade in the Republic of Texas.....no nationalized healthcare either...because we will have all the hospitals and physicians that you Amerikans will utilize.... Oil, gas, aerospace, nuclear energy,and medical care.....the future of the Republic of Texas.

83 posted on 06/29/2009 7:03:52 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Non-Sequitur
We're talking about the bill that Texas presidents have run up to date.

Show me a list of the constitutionally mandated expenditures of the general government THEN we'll talk.

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We're talking about the bill that Texas presidents have run up to date.

No, YOU'RE talking about Texas presidents because YOU are the only one who thinks where a President is from is somehow relevant. It is merer ANOTHER of the straw-man arguments you are famous for.

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And a $900 billion debt load should take care of that.

Constitutional authority, please.

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Nor is it a club to beat the rest of us with on your way out the door.

ROFLMAO!

Texas won't NEED a club. If you think you're owed something, send us a bill. I'm sure we can come to an agreement.

A right to some kind of remuneration in no way, shape or form can interfere with the right of a State to take action if the federal government acts against the best interests of the State.

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"If the States look with apathy on this silent descent of their government into the gulf [of consolidation] which is to swallow all, we have only to weep over the human character formed uncontrollable but by a rod of iron, and the blasphemers of man as incapable of self-government become his true historians."
--Thomas Jefferson to Charles Hammond, 1821.

98 posted on 06/29/2009 7:19:05 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT an administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"We're talking about the bill that Texas presidents have run up to date."

You like that idea of laying all the blame for the idiocies of the LBJ administration at the feet of current Texans? You choose that screen name, or was it assigned to you?

126 posted on 06/29/2009 11:18:49 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Non-Sequitur; texasmama; cbkaty; Arrowhead1952; Texas Fossil

“Nor is it a club to beat the rest of us with on your way out the door.”

Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie, and William Travis. 3 of nearly 200 men and women who fought and died at the Alamo during the Texas revolution.

These men were not Texans but, thought Texas was important enough to give their lives for.

If there’s ever another *revolution* here, I hope other brave souls from other states/countries will be willing to take up arms and fight for freedom.

If you ever get a chance, come to San Antonio and visit the Alamo. You will be inspired.


138 posted on 06/29/2009 11:54:25 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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