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To: cbkaty
I believe that several states have active movements...Vermont's movement may be larger than Texas....

The fact is, many that never gave a thought to secession, are now actively engaged....

Actually, New England was very "states' rights" during the Jefferson administration (the Essex Junto) and the War of 1812 ("blue light" Federalists, the Hartford Convention).

Also many northern states invoked states' rights to combat the fugitive slave law.

Actually, whether one advocates federal or local supremacy seems to depend on whether one holds federal power.

255 posted on 06/30/2009 4:17:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Actually, whether one advocates federal or local supremacy seems to depend on whether one holds federal power.

Go to the head of the class.........power resides with the people....the powers not delegated stay with the state or the people....

256 posted on 06/30/2009 4:21:45 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty
New England also pioneered the idea of state governments "interposing" themselves between their citizens and the Federal Government when there was talk of a draft during the War of 1812. The Federalists also, forgetting the loose construction they had advocated when in power, started questioning the Constitutionality of the Louisiana Purchase and a military draft because these things were not explicitly written in the Constitution.

And of course, Jefferson Davis, the "hero" of "states' righters," basically ran a centralized dictatorship in the Confederacy.

Once again, ideology seems predicated on where one's interests lie.

257 posted on 06/30/2009 4:22:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim)
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