To: WorkingClassFilth
"The abject reality of what goes on for too many people who actually believe objects have sacred powers is another." And I say "so what". The teaching of the Church is pellucidly clear. If some people don't understand it, or ignore it, whose fault is that. If folks in your church don't follow church doctrines, do you blame the doctrines?? I think not.
"Christ is the central point of Scripture and the narrative leading up to His work. All worship is due Him and no other - objects or persons."
Study up on what the Catholic Church TEACHES, not what your Protestant propaganda spouts, and you will see that Church teaching is exactly that. That is precisely what the terms "latria" and "dulia" are all about. Go read the link I posted. No Catholic worships any image, period.
To: Wonder Warthog
“Study up on what the Catholic Church TEACHES, not what your Protestant propaganda spouts, and you will see that Church teaching is exactly that. That is precisely what the terms “latria” and “dulia” are all about. Go read the link I posted. No Catholic worships any image, period. “
Study to show thyself approved unto God; a workman rightly dividing The Word. The “Church” won’t be there when you stand before The Judge. Priests can’t show you the way of salvation - most of them aren’t even saved themselves.
41 posted on
06/29/2009 7:06:47 AM PDT by
RoadTest
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To: Wonder Warthog
And I say “so what”. The teaching of the Church is pellucidly clear.
Correction: For those versed in doctrine, perhaps, but for too many in too many places, relics carry the same mindless allure as the paganism they have left behind.
If some people don't understand it, or ignore it, whose fault is that.
Correction: Uh, it's the fault of those who purport to know better for not doing a better job of teaaching and directing proper worship to Christ. As Paul said: "Let me show you a more perfect way . . ."
If folks in your church don't follow church doctrines, do you blame the doctrines?? I think not.
Correction: Too many times, in too many churches, it is the fault of leadership through deliberate misleading or not clarifying truth. In any case, leadership in the church - any church - is always going to be held to higher standards in matters of corporate Church behavior precisely because of the critical role authority holds to lead and guide.
Study up on what the Catholic Church TEACHES, not what your Protestant propaganda spouts, and you will see that Church teaching is exactly that.
Correction: First, as far as I'm concerned, this has nothing to do with Catholicism either in general or specifically. In fact, this could've been a thread on Mormonism or Hinduism - my main concern is the outworking of human nature and the pitfalls this kind of thing invites. It has everything to do with how things are perceived by those in darkness. Secondly, I'm not a Protestant. You ought to calm down and analyze things from a more objective perspective instead of an emphatically emotional one that seeks to lay blame on your imagined enemies. Finally, once again, the entire point of my original comment was that people DO worship relics and to not correct that or point it out is just plain derelict. We obviously disagree about something, but I think you'd profit by looking at how people regard - and, yes, worship - relics in quarters beyond your experience.
49 posted on
06/29/2009 11:14:08 AM PDT by
WorkingClassFilth
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To: Wonder Warthog
And I say “so what”. The teaching of the Church is pellucidly clear.
Correction: For those versed in doctrine, perhaps, but for too many in too many places, relics carry the same mindless allure as the paganism they have left behind.
If some people don't understand it, or ignore it, whose fault is that.
Correction: Uh, it's the fault of those who purport to know better for not doing a better job of teaaching and directing proper worship to Christ. As Paul said: "Let me show you a more perfect way . . ."
If folks in your church don't follow church doctrines, do you blame the doctrines?? I think not.
Correction: Too many times, in too many churches, it is the fault of leadership through deliberate misleading or not clarifying truth. In any case, leadership in the church - any church - is always going to be held to higher standards in matters of corporate Church behavior precisely because of the critical role authority holds to lead and guide.
Study up on what the Catholic Church TEACHES, not what your Protestant propaganda spouts, and you will see that Church teaching is exactly that.
Correction: First, as far as I'm concerned, this has nothing to do with Catholicism either in general or specifically. In fact, this could've been a thread on Mormonism or Hinduism - my main concern is the outworking of human nature and the pitfalls this kind of thing invites. It has everything to do with how things are perceived by those in darkness. Secondly, I'm not a Protestant. You ought to calm down and analyze things from a more objective perspective instead of an emphatically emotional one that seeks to lay blame on your imagined enemies. Finally, once again, the entire point of my original comment was that people DO worship relics and to not correct that or point it out is just plain derelict. We obviously disagree about something, but I think you'd profit by looking at how people regard - and, yes, worship - relics in quarters beyond your experience.
50 posted on
06/29/2009 11:22:49 AM PDT by
WorkingClassFilth
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