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To: stripes1776

Hillary Rodham Clinton visited the image at Guadalupe Mexico. She asked “Who painted it?”

The guide’s reply: “G-d.”

I wonder where that would fit in your definition of icons and relics.


18 posted on 06/28/2009 10:45:33 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: donmeaker
Hillary Rodham Clinton visited the image at Guadalupe Mexico. She asked “Who painted it?” The guide’s reply: “G-d.” I wonder where that would fit in your definition of icons and relics.

First of all, the person who replied said "God". When people speak, they enunciate the vowels.

As for that particular icon, I believe the tradition says that the original image appeared on the cloak. There is a much older tradition that Veronica wiped the face of Jesus as he made his way to Calvary. She wiped his face, and the cloth retained an image of his face. But most icons are fashioned by human hands. I guess we would need to make a special category for those icons that are not fashioned by human hands.

That subject of these icons not made by human hands is interesting. But the question I have is this: Is a relic an icon?

20 posted on 06/28/2009 10:59:39 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: donmeaker

“Hillary Rodham Clinton visited the image at Guadalupe Mexico. She asked “Who painted it?”

The guide’s reply: “G-d.”

The same G-d who forbade the making of images?


34 posted on 06/29/2009 6:44:12 AM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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