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To: El Gato
Except for the letter from the University registrar which shows her enrolled for the Fall '60 semester

Enrolled is the operative word. She graduated in the summer of 1960. Her father moved to Hawaii before her mother did. He may have enrolled her because he wanted her to attend the UH.

and the U. Washington transcript which shows credit for two of the courses she took that semester. Russian and Philosophy.

I am suspicious of that entry. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that both the OBAMA name and the Hawaii credits are later additions. Please feel free to correct me if you think that's impossible.

Now where she was from late January '61 until showing up in the Seattle area in late August of '61, there is little documentation, other than the questionable birth announcement, which legit or not, does not say where the baby was born.

I will ask you to remember the slip of the tongue by Susan Blake which she quickly attempted to retract during a telephone interview. She said she received a letter (or post-card) from Stanley Ann from a ship...in February 1961.

The transcript, both typed and computer printout version, show her enrolled as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. Same last name as the Polk directory shows her using at the apartment.

The letter from the UW names her as Stanley Ann Dunham. No obama is mentioned.

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for: Autumn 1961 Winter 1962 Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson Office of Public Records 206-543-9180

SOURCE

The computer print-out names her as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama.

The entry from the Polk Directory lists her as Anna Obama.

It just doesn't make sense for a young girl to have that many different names, does it? There has to be a reason. Each change of name indicates something, but what?

242 posted on 09/02/2009 7:11:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: kimla

TOUTONGHI - BACKGROUND - REQUIRES CONFIRMATION

The only Toutonghi ever listed in the Social Security death index is Lorice.

Lorice was born in 1907. Her last address was San Pedro CA.
Her last benefits were sent to Seattle Washington.

Lorice died in 1991
We do not know the year she married P. E. Toutonghi.

He was born in 1899 in Iskenderun Turkey.

He lived to be 101 years old.

He died July 7, 2000 in Seattle Washington.

Before P. E. Toutonghi arrived in the USA there was no Toutonghi’s in the states… actually I believe the name is a creation of its owner… or a named assigned to him. 9 years after his death and he is not in the SS death index.

There are zero records of anyone by the last name immigrating from Turkey, or any other country that I can find.

I believe the true born identity of this man is published in a French literary publication because. his obituary tells us, he won first prize for poetry in the late 1920’s.

He was a member of Academy of Floral Games, that’s the English translation, it’s history is long and rich. They awarded the prize.

The poem and the name of the author is in a book that I have not yet located.
The name of the poem is,” Immaculate” (yes, as in conception)

Taking directly from his obituary;
Fluent in: French, Arabic, Italian, Latin,
Greek and English.

He taught French and Latin at
Seattle Prep, Seattle University, and Gonzaga University,
where he retired at age 66.

He continued teaching language arts in California until age 72.

Remembrances may be made to the Jesuits Seminary Fund,
c/o Provincial Curia, 2222 N.W. Hoyt Ave., Portland, (the address is a residential condo complex.)

He had 4 daughters. 2 live in California, 1 lives in Seattle, and the other in Texas.

He had 3 sons – Joseph and John from Seattle, and Michael of California.

The wife of Joseph, in 1961 ends up living below Mrs. Anna Obama in a basement apartment in the Capitol Hill section of Seattle.


243 posted on 09/02/2009 8:24:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Enrolled is the operative word.

The letter says "dates of attendance."

I am suspicious of that entry. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that both the OBAMA name and the Hawaii credits are later additions. Please feel free to correct me if you think that's impossible.

While nothing is impossible, if it was a later addition, it was done at the University, since the printout version also shows the U Hawaii courses and the Obama name.

BTW, I misstated her first semester U Hawaii GPA, it was 1.35, I was having problems with my contacts earlier in the week. It's clearer on the printout. That whole printout transcript would need to be fake, since the transfer credit information is above the main portion of the transcript.

It is possible that the name was changed, because she first registered as "Dunham", and then changed it to agree with the name she was actually using, or for some reason they filed it under "Dunham", because that's what her Mercer Island High School transcript said.

One more enigma in a very enigmatic story.

Do you have a link to the audio or video of Blake saying that about the post card? Blake's account is not the only one that puts her in Seattle in late August. Here's another, which also the lie about BHO Sr, already being at Harvard. Of course that is very odd, because how could even Stanley Ann know in early '61 that BHO Sr would eventually pick Harvard, rather than the New School or some other place for grad school? Possible SA just said grad school and people who knew was Harvard when recollecting, just put that into their recollection?

This story mentions her being in Seattle in '61, but at least implies that she didn't go to U.Wash until Spring '62, not mentioning her taking extension courses earlier.

But I think we need more than a mention of a postcard from a ship to really there was some travel on a boat. If they were married on Maui, they probably would have gone there by ship. An inter-island ferry to be sure, but a ship/boat none the less.

244 posted on 09/02/2009 9:20:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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