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To: Fred Nerks; hoosiermama; LucyT; STARWISE
With everything else going on, I dropped the ball on getting this out a couple of days ago, Fred — sorry.

One VERY important tidbit not included in the Post #7170 regarding the NEVER BEFORE RELEASED Susan Blake interview:

Susan Blake said, then retracted, that she received a post card from Stanley (Ann Dunham) from a ship in February or March of 1961. When asked where it was headed, she said she did not know. Immediately in the next breath, Blake said she was just guessing about the ship. Then she also said that instead of a postcard, it was a actually a letter from Ann in Spring of 1961, stating she had been married and was expecting a baby, but didn't remember from where the letter was sent.

This information about the ship came about two-thirds the way in the interview. By this point, the interviewer had also been told that Ann said she was on her way out to Boston in August 1961 -- a year before Obama SR started attending Harvard -- and quite frankly, he began to think Blake was making things up “on the fly”. Because the interviewer was already dismissing parts of her statements by this point, and then she retracted this, he didn't think much of it (neither did I at the time). That's when the interviewer asked the "money question" about Obama's citizenship, and she hung up.

To add to this concept of a ship ride to Kenya, here's this from Michael Patrick Leahy book, “What Does Barack Obama Believe?” when he interviewed Blake in August 2008: "If Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, there is no indication that Barack Obama Senior was present at the birth of his third child. Stanley Ann's high school classmate Susan Blake had the impression that he was not there, and may not even have been on the island of Hawaii at the time..."

The address on the famed Honolulu Advertiser Obama birth announcement, 6085 Kalaniaole Hwy, is 15 miles from the University of Hawaii campus. It was an expensive area of the island, in an area not populated by students (as owning and operating a car on Hawaii was/is expensive).

Also, accounts indicate that Obama SR's family wasn't happy upon learning about Ann. They were said to be upset, in addition to other reasons, that he was not honoring the dowry of 14 cows given to Keiza's family when he married her in January 1957.

IF Barack was still in Kenya if he and Ann took a boat ride there in Feb-Mar 1961, and Ann decided to leave once she was permitted to do so after the baby was born, that could explain this part of the story about a possible ship-ride to Kenya, as well as a flight back to Washington state three weeks after Obama JR's birth (perhaps via Hawaii en route to file a Kenyan BC).

144 posted on 08/08/2009 4:35:46 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks
Great thread....I can believe that scenario of Stanley Ann jumping on a ship. She got that 3rd world grass hut romance bug early on. The African Queen.


145 posted on 08/08/2009 4:46:27 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: BP2

Did you know that even today you can board a cargo ship via Chicago from Lake Michigan and head across the Atlantic Ocean...

http://greencouple.com/2009/02/04/extreme-green-travel-by-cargo-ship/

And in 1964, look who met a Black Star Line ship:

....Some elder Detroit black nationalists recall the visit of a Black Star steamship in August 1964. Malcolm X’s eldest brother, the late Wilfred Little Shabazz, himself a son of Garveyites, told the author of his pride at meeting the ship’s captain and posing for photographs, one of which appeared in Now, a black nationalist magazine published by Detroit attorney Milton Henry.

http://afgen.com/kwame_nkrumah.html


147 posted on 08/08/2009 5:51:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: BP2
On reading your extensive comment again, I find this reference by Michael Patrick Leahy of great interest:

To add to this concept of a ship ride to Kenya, here's this from Michael Patrick Leahy book, “What Does Barack Obama Believe?” when he interviewed Blake in August 2008: "If Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, there is no indication that Barack Obama Senior was present at the birth of his third child. Stanley Ann's high school classmate Susan Blake had the impression that he was not there, and may not even have been on the island of Hawaii at the time..."

Methinks it was STANLEY ANN DUNHAM who was NOT in Hawaii at the time...

Also, accounts indicate that Obama SR's family wasn't happy upon learning about Ann. They were said to be upset, in addition to other reasons, that he was not honoring the dowry of 14 cows given to Keiza's family when he married her in January 1957.

Obama Sr was born in 1936, IIRC. He left school in 1953 when he was 17. At 18 he was married to Kezia. That would make it 1954. They had a son. Kezia was again pregnant we are told, when Obama Sr left Kenya.

Dowry of 14 cows in 1957 sounds like whoever wrote this thinks we are idiots who will swallow anything.

This is where Obama Sr went to school:

LINK

The students were taught sciences, art and technical subjects, including carpentry and tailoring. Otula says Obama Sr went straight to the US from Maseno, to start his academic tour. He later married an American woman, the mother of Senator Obama.

What? No one told him about the tribal marriage, the 14 cows...?

149 posted on 08/09/2009 5:24:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: BP2
On reading your extensive comment again, I find this reference by Michael Patrick Leahy of great interest:

To add to this concept of a ship ride to Kenya, here's this from Michael Patrick Leahy book, “What Does Barack Obama Believe?” when he interviewed Blake in August 2008: "If Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, there is no indication that Barack Obama Senior was present at the birth of his third child. Stanley Ann's high school classmate Susan Blake had the impression that he was not there, and may not even have been on the island of Hawaii at the time..."

Methinks it was STANLEY ANN DUNHAM who was NOT in Hawaii at the time...

Also, accounts indicate that Obama SR's family wasn't happy upon learning about Ann. They were said to be upset, in addition to other reasons, that he was not honoring the dowry of 14 cows given to Keiza's family when he married her in January 1957.

Obama Sr was born in 1936, IIRC. He left school in 1953 when he was 17. At 18 he was married to Kezia. That would make it 1954. They had a son. Kezia was again pregnant we are told, when Obama Sr left Kenya.

Dowry of 14 cows in 1957 sounds like whoever wrote this thinks we are idiots who will swallow anything.

This is where Obama Sr went to school:

LINK

The students were taught sciences, art and technical subjects, including carpentry and tailoring. Otula says Obama Sr went straight to the US from Maseno, to start his academic tour. He later married an American woman, the mother of Senator Obama.

What? No one told him about the tribal marriage, the 14 cows...?

150 posted on 08/09/2009 6:21:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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