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Vote Coming to Confirm Anti-gun Radical - "Guns Kill Civil Society," says State Department Nominee
Gun Owners of America ^ | June 23, 2009 | NA

Posted on 06/24/2009 7:55:22 PM PDT by neverdem

Vote Coming to Confirm Anti-gun Radical -- "Guns Kill Civil Society," says State Department Nominee

Tuesday, June 23, 2009

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has scheduled a Wednesday vote on a State Department nominee who supports gun control on a global scale.

While advocates of the Second Amendment have come to expect that appointees of President Barack Obama would be hostile to the rights of gun owners, the president's nominee for legal advisor to the State Department reaches a whole new level of anti-gun extremism.

Harold Hongju Koh, who served at the State Department under the Clinton administration, is a self-described "trans-nationalist" who believes that our laws -- and our Constitution -- should be brought into conformity with international agreements.

"If you want to be in the global environment, you have to play by the global rules," Koh told a Cleveland audience.

Koh's positions treat our constitutional law as if it were a mere local ordinance on the greater world stage. This is of particular concern to gun owners at a time when the U.S. Congress is under pressure from President Obama to ratify an international gun control treaty with countries in the western hemisphere. That treaty, known by its Spanish acronym CIFTA, would likely serve as a forerunner to a more extensive United Nations initiative, the "Program of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in all its Aspects."

The Bush administration, under the leadership of UN Ambassador John Bolton, rejected the small arms treaty. Bolton plainly told the world that the United States will not accept a gun control document that violates our Constitutional right to bear arms. Harold Koh commented that Bolton was being "needlessly provocative."

In a paper entitled "A world drowning in guns," Koh maintains that a civil society cannot exist with broad gun ownership: "Guns kill civil society," he said.

Koh is eager to assume his post at the State Department, having lamented that there is only so much that can be done from the outside to push gun control treaties, and that ultimately we need people like him in positions of power. The chief lawyer for the State Department is just the position someone like him needs to put his agenda into play.

While Koh's nomination has been delayed largely because of Second Amendment concerns, Sen. Reid plans to force a vote this week.

It is imperative that gun owners contact their Senators and insist that they vote AGAINST this anti-gun extremist.

ACTION: Please contact your Senators immediately and urge them to oppose Harold Hongju Koh's nomination to the State Department. You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center to send your Senators the pre-written message below.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

The Senate is expected to soon vote on a State Department nominee who supports gun control on a global scale.

Harold Hongju Koh, who served at the State Department under the Clinton administration, is a self-described "trans-nationalist" who believes that our laws -- and our Constitution -- should be brought into conformity with international agreements.

According to Koh, "If you want to be in the global environment, you have to play by the global rules." Well, I don't support global rules that contradict our own Constitution.

Koh supports international gun control treaties such as the United Nations initiative entitles the "Program of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in all its Aspects."

When former UN Ambassador John Bolton told the world that the United States will not accept a gun control document that violates our Constitutional right to bear arms, Harold Koh commented that Bolton was being "needlessly provocative."

And in a 2003 Fordham Law Review article entitled "A world drowning in guns," Koh maintains that a civil society cannot exist with broad gun ownership: "Guns kill civil society," he wrote.

I urge you to reject this trans-nationalist, anti-gun extremist who would place foreign laws and international agreements on equal footing (at minimum) with the U.S. Constitution.

Sincerely,

© 2009 by Gun Owners of America


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
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To: DCBryan1
Someone needs to go “Henry Bowman” on this guy.....I would like to see the “Senator treatment” mentioned in the book

Both ends? What a player!

61 posted on 06/25/2009 12:53:29 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: gimme1ibertee
Agree.

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62 posted on 06/25/2009 12:58:57 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: neverdem

He looks like a Commie insurgent to me. His mother and family *trapped* in North Korea? Right!


63 posted on 06/25/2009 1:24:22 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: neverdem
Government guns kill civil society, Harold Hongju Koh, you ass, guns in the hands of citizens protect it.

Just ask Neda and the Iranian cicilians.

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Meanwhile, they are axing students to death.

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64 posted on 06/25/2009 2:26:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: neverdem
From wikipedia:
Civil society is composed of the totality of voluntary civic and social organizations and institutions that form the basis of a functioning society as opposed to the force-backed structures of a state (regardless of that state's political system) and commercial institutions of the market.

(In other words, my volunteering for my gun club is strengthening civil society, his efforts to increase the power of government is not.)

You can't build a voluntary social organization from a population who has no ability to say no.

65 posted on 06/25/2009 6:49:22 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Domandred
Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens keeps society civil.

Very well said.

I might try to print it out and slap in on my truck so the polesmokers who run around in their SUVs with Obama stickers may learn something.

66 posted on 06/25/2009 8:42:22 PM PDT by budwiesest (The truth is about to set us free. Won't that be nice?)
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To: jdege
You can't build a voluntary social organization from a population who has no ability to say no.

And yet, that's exactly what they're building. Imagine buying a new truck and having a big, fat, carbon tax added to the sticker? Or any appliance that gobbles-up watts? Then telling the salesperson you're not going to pay it because you don't believe in global warming?

No wonder this guy feels the way he does about guns, he hails from the land of giant termite colonies where individualism was wiped out centuries ago. Amazing how little common sense is displayed by those with pricey academic credentials.

67 posted on 06/25/2009 9:05:10 PM PDT by budwiesest (The truth is about to set us free. Won't that be nice?)
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To: neverdem

E-mail replies are different from postal form letters as they can be automatically read and filtered, or at least statistically analyzed. I was referring to snail mail form letters. So the Bradybots may be evil, but they aren’t stupid. Dollar for dollar and ‘member’ for ‘member’ they are more effective than the NRA, but then they get millions of dollars in free advertising from the mainstream media.

I did listen to you. I’ve also listened to staffers in our state legislature when they’ve been buried by organized pro-2nd amendment lobbying efforts. The weight of the postcards sent a message that they were being watched and held accountable. Phone calls are even better.

Your advice is good for the more dedicated, and I acknowledged that. Do you have any constructive criticism of my advice?


68 posted on 06/26/2009 8:33:20 PM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: lentulusgracchus

Friend, I was articulating the values of the people you claim to be trying to influence, not my own. And I stated out front that being counted as part of an organized pro-2nd amendment lobbying effort isn’t the only way to go. I wish more people had the energy to put their own personal stake into the battle.

LibTeeth is short for Liberty Teeth. Do I have to explain that or would it matter?

I never said the form letter was the only way to go. Read my post again. If you want to disagree with my characterization of entrenched political professionals, then we have something to discuss as to the most effective way to preserve the Republic.

Your characterization of liberalism (socialism) is naive; it is based on coercive force. Everything else (going along to get along) is a smoke screen, a con. Which is why the commies push to disarm the people even when it costs them votes.

Sorry to trouble you with discourse. That last line was pretty funny though.


69 posted on 06/26/2009 8:50:16 PM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: neverdem

I need a template..... please.... I want to write, but don’t know exactly what to say. I’m a gun owner, and advocate.


70 posted on 06/26/2009 8:52:45 PM PDT by bareford101
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