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Realtors say new appraisals `problem"
Mercury News ^ | 24 June 2009

Posted on 06/24/2009 6:30:50 PM PDT by Lorianne

Flawed appraisals are derailing real estate sales and depressing values across the United States, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday as it reported that existing home prices declined 17 percent in May from a year earlier.

"It's pointing to thousands of delayed or canceled transactions," Lawrence Yun, chief economist of the Chicago-based Realtors group, said in an interview. "We've had a massive inundation from members saying this is a big problem."

Appraisal rules that went into effect on May 1 require lenders that sell loans to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to set up a firewall between appraisers and loan officers to prevent improper influence. The rules are the result of an agreement between the mortgage buyers and New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who said an investigation found appraisers inflated values under pressure from lenders.

The agreement mandates that banks order a second appraisal on 10 percent of the loans they sell to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and warns against accepting the higher of any two valuations. The guidelines have led to more conservative valuations by many appraisers and a "chill" in lending, according to John Brennan, research director at the Appraisal Foundation, a Washington-based trade group. A low appraisal is one that comes in under the price a prospective buyer has agreed to pay for a property. [Huh?]

Low appraisals have become a focus of the California Office of Real Estate Appraisers, which oversees licensed appraisers in the state. Investigations by the Sacramento-based group rose 36 percent to 418 at the end of May from the same period last year, said Bob Clark, director of the office. The probes are looking into allegations including flawed valuations and use of comparable sales too far from the subject property, he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: appraisals; nar; realestate; realtors
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Oh great. Realtors are 'unhappy' with home appraisals
1 posted on 06/24/2009 6:30:50 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Ahhhh! The beauty of unintended consequences... Another concept lost on the LibTard mind.

It’s time to take back the country.


2 posted on 06/24/2009 6:35:59 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Lorianne

lol We went to refinance back in April/early May when rates were at their lowest, and the lender said he couldn’t get financing because not enough similar homes in our area were selling to get an accurate appraisal. He said that only the least expensive houses were selling. We checked at another place for a second opinion on that, and the other place said almost the exact same thing.

I’m glad we aren’t having to move anytime soon, because we would be screwed!


3 posted on 06/24/2009 6:43:41 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Lorianne
The cozy relationship between realtors and appraisers has always been a problem.

Like irresponsible homeowners, treating their homes as a piggy bank, realtors take it as a universal physical constant that home values must continuously escalate. Self-serving, destructive and unrealistic.
That, and the similar attitude among county appraisers, similarly self-serving, had a minor but important role in the housing meltdown.

Just saying.

4 posted on 06/24/2009 6:49:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Lorianne

Appraisers are in CYA mode. Also, they have to find comparable sales w/i the previous 6 months that can be used as the basis to estimate the value of the property they are appraising. Unfortunately, a lot of the sales have been at low prices.


5 posted on 06/24/2009 6:51:03 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Lorianne

Even IF there were any professional appraisers, how could can there be anything like an accurate real estate appraisal until after the mortagers and banks quit dumping properties on the market? Seriesly.


6 posted on 06/24/2009 6:51:55 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Lorianne

They caused much of this problem while they got in bed with the bankers and buried people in property loans plus the cities and towns jumped on board to bury people in higher property taxes.


7 posted on 06/24/2009 6:52:05 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Lorianne

Well, a low appraisal made me unable to buy a condo this year. We offered $310k, but the appraisal came in at $260k, so the bank would only loan us $260k. We did not have $50k to make up the difference between what the seller wanted for the condo and what the bank thought the condo was worth. End result: the sale did not happen. We didn’t get the condo, and our real estate agent did not get a commission. We were unhappy all around.


8 posted on 06/24/2009 6:53:22 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: taxtruth

The thing about being a parasite, is that if you eat too much, the host dies.


9 posted on 06/24/2009 6:56:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Lorianne
Lawrence Yun, chief economist

This guy is nothing more than a mouthpiece for realtors. I remember seeing article after article quoting him through 2007 and 2008, always happy-talk about the state of the housing market.

10 posted on 06/24/2009 6:56:33 PM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: Lorianne

This subject burns me and all of my friends.Our property tax has increased 300% in 5 years.


11 posted on 06/24/2009 6:56:47 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Lorianne

REALTORS - The LARGEST LOBBY IN THE USA!


12 posted on 06/24/2009 7:01:06 PM PDT by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: AirForceBrat23

If the appraisal was low your agent should have suggested you go back to the Seller with a lower offer.

If any other Buyer asks for an appraisal in most States the Seller has to disclose that one has been done and offer it up.

Sounds to me like your Realtor did not do you a favor.

JMHO


13 posted on 06/24/2009 7:04:18 PM PDT by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: Lorianne

Isn’t THIS special.....the banks (and their co-conspirator appraisors) want to have it both ways.....we BOUGHT a house in Sept 2008.....and the BANK GAVE the sales price to the appraisor, after my husband asked them not to.....so, of course appraisors made the appraisal MATCH the sales price....and NOW, we are selling another property (trying to, at least) and they want it the OTHER way....well BOOHOOOOOO


14 posted on 06/24/2009 7:05:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (For lease)
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To: Publius6961
“The cozy relationship between realtors and appraisers has always been a problem.”

No... the appraisers were under pressure from lenders so lenders could make loans. The appraisers were selected by and paid by the lenders not realtors. If the appraisal did not come in high enough to make the sale, those appraisers would not get more work.

Now, the lender has to use an independent third party who selects the appraiser.

15 posted on 06/24/2009 7:15:38 PM PDT by StraightDave (.)
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To: not2worry

The seller of the condo probably owed more than $260,000. Plus he had to pay the realtor’s commission.

The bank will only finance a percentage of the appraised value. For instance, FHA will required 3 1/2 % down payment of the appraised value or the selling price which ever is lowest. If it appraised for $260,000 only $253,300 could be financed on an FHA loan.

In reference to the $8,000 tax credit. Texas is going to “front” the 8 grand up front for down payment. In other words, 100% financing with a 620 FICO score and a back ratio of no more than 50%. Since I’m trying to make a living selling houses, I’m all for it. Like Tom Tancredo, I want some bail out money!


16 posted on 06/24/2009 7:19:27 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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To: StraightDave

Actually, the appraisal fee is paid by the buyer unless the seller agrees to pay it. But, the buyer’s lender has always selected the appraiser with the exception being on VA loans. The VA selects the appraiser.


17 posted on 06/24/2009 7:21:57 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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To: Lorianne

The problem in my area is that foreclosures and short-sales are dominating the market. Non-distressed home sales can’t compete. This makes for a good buyers market, but a crappy time to sell.


18 posted on 06/24/2009 7:21:58 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Lorianne
As a person who was in home lending for 15 years I can agree with separating the appraisals and the brokers. However, they are going a bit too far in suppressing appraised values. A market rate appraisal is suppose to be a fair representation of the "normal" market value of the home if marketed for 6 months. Fannie/Freddie is adulterating that process by forcing appraisers to include "firesale" prices. Foreclosure and builder close outs are not market sales.

While I understand the [huh] from the poster, that statement isn't as silly as it sounds. Market value is, in it's purest form, the value an arms length buyer is willing to pay for a property. The appraisal attempts to support that value by showing that others are buying at or about that same value. Supporting value is only done to insure the "arms length" of the transaction at hand. You want to make sure that there is not an inflated contract price because the buyer is getting a kickback. You can never really know about a kickback, but if the appraiser shows prevailing value to be 200k and your buyer is paying 250k, he is either crooked or stupid and neither is a good basis for lending.

So, saying that value is what someone is willing to pay for a property is really true, but it is only half the story. Lenders are too restrictive on appraisals now. Being too restrictive is just as destructive as being too lenient.

19 posted on 06/24/2009 7:23:29 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Lorianne
Realtors are 'unhappy' with home appraisals

So are the people trying to buy the homes and those trying to sell the homes.

In my neighborhood, foreclosed houses have sold for as little as 1/4 their former value a couple years ago. This drives down the value of all the houses on the street. You can't get loans. You can't sell it. You can't get an equity line.

20 posted on 06/24/2009 7:23:44 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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