Tehran 'like a war zone' as ayatollah refuses to back down on election

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[nuconvert]

• Reports militia drafted in and paid to beat protesters • Ministers threaten to cut diplomatic ties with UK

Bloody clashes broke out in Tehran today as Iran's supreme leader said he would not yield to pressure over the disputed election. The renewed confrontation took place in Baharestan Square, near parliament, where hundreds of protesters faced off against several thousand riot police and other security personnel.

Witnesses likened the scene to a ­war zone, with helicopters hovering overhead, many arrests and the police beating demonstrators.

One woman told CNN that hundreds of unidentified men armed with clubs had emerged from a mosque to confront the protesters.

"They beat a woman so savagely that she was drenched in blood and her husband fainted. They were beating people like hell. It was a massacre," she said.

The opposition website Rooz Online carried what it said was an interview with a man the government had shipped in to Tehran to quell the demonstrations. He said he was being paid 2m rial (£122) to assault protesters with a heavy wooden stave, and that other volunteers, most of them from far-flung provinces, were being kept in hostel accommodation, reportedly in east Tehran.

[Kozak]

How hard would it be for us to get some guns into the hands of the Iranian people so they can take their country back?

Not hard at all. there's a long border with Iraq, and it wouldn't be hard to smuggle weapons in ( they've been doing it to us for years). We just don't have the will.

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How can our country not join the battle against tyranny along side the the people in the streets of Tehran? Do we have that much a coward as President?

[KTM rider]

right on, the chanting will be with 12 guage steel slugs

Insurrection excercise set for July 09

[Bravada]

Comment and question re: O’s passive acceptance of the murderous chaos in Iran. Iran is Shiite Muslim. Indonesia, O’s childhood home, is Sunni Muslim, I think. O hangs out with Sunnis in Saudi Arabia. Shiites and Sunnis often go at each other. Could it be that O’s apparent acceptance of what is going on in Iran is related to this and he’s glad to see it happening to Shiites?

[Fred Nerks]

Interesting comment on the danielpipes website:

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/135223

Submitted by Dean (United States), Jul 15, 2008 at 14:11

One disturbing aspect to Shia Islam is the doctrine of Taqiyya or Dissimulation.

If it becomes necessary for “survival,” according to this doctrine one may dissimulate (lie) and even outwardly practice another religion, as long as one keeps Islam in one’s heart.

The fact that Jeremiah Wright was formerly a Black Muslim and that Barak’s middle name, Hussein—after Hussein Ibn Ali, the founder of Shia Islam—causes one to wonder. For instance, Senator Obama wants to pull our troops out of Iraq leaving the field clear for Iran. Iran is the mainstay for Shia Islam and it is the Shia population in Iraq that wants to take over with backing from Iran. On the other hand, Mr. Obama says we must win in Afganistan where the Taliban is trying to resume control. The Taliban is Sunni. They must be defeated.

The Sunni do not believe in the Shia doctrine of Taqiyya or Dissimulation. But for the Shia, the name, “Hussein,” might be a code word that he is one of them at heart, only practicing Taqiyya, for the survival and glory of Shia Islam? Who knows? Is it possible? It may seem farfetched, but at this stage in the game, one cannot help but wonder. All the money backing and meteoric rise of Obama cause one to wonder: What is going on? We must also recognize there is a power struggle within Islam between Sunni and Shia. Why does Obama want to fight the Sunni and sit down for tea with the Shia (leader of Iran)???

[chris37]

I have thought to myself that perhaps Zero wishes for events of this nature to occur under a future totalitarian regime led by himself. In fact, I think that there may be a number of people in our federal government that wish to wield this type of frightful power over us. I sincerely hope that this is not the case, and that I am wrong.

[D-fendr]

It would be just to send arms to the rebels. The regime has been arming our enemies for decades.

[TheThinker]

Obama, the Shiite, makes sense. His bow to Abdullah is a dead giveaway.

Some think Obama is communist first and wants to help his Marxist friends in Iran and around the world over the protesters.

But Marxism is simply his method of takeover. The establishment of an Islamic state, the 58th, is his goal.

He's Muslim at heart and his true colors are shining through.

[Fred Nerks]

I’m no expert, but I picked him for a shia by his attitude to Iraq. I predicted long ago that the sect he follows would guide his foreign policy...

But there’s something else at work. Islam’s ambition to restore the Caliphate. Didn’t he say in his Cairo speech that the US was one of the largest muslim countries in the world?

Think about that. Add all your muslim immigrants to your converts and black muslims...and he could be right. Any number in double figures qualifies.

Maybe he sees himself as the instrument...

The Saudi King isn’t stupid. He hung a golden chain around his neck, might as well have called him his very own black slave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxVWckPZX0A

The Sunni have no greater enemy than the Shia. The Caliphate is nothing but a shia dream, they are vastly outnumbered.

[piasa]

Obama, the Shiite, makes sense. His bow to Abdullah is a dead giveaway.

If Obama was a Shiite he sure as heck wouldn't bow to the Wahabbi Sunni king of Saudi Arabia. His bow to a Sunni king is anything but a "dead giveaway" linking him to the Shia faith.

[TheThinker]

Why does Obama want to fight the Sunni

Then again why does he bow so low to the Sunni leader? Why did he want us out of Iraq so quickly, weakening their defense?

He seems OK with the collapse of Pakistan to the Sunni extremists. He did attend a Wahhabi school in Jakarta. The Wahhabists like to be refered to as unitarians. He went to a unitarian Marxist church that embraced many religions, supposedly.

[TheThinker]

His bow to a Sunni king is anything but a "dead giveaway" linking him to the Shia faith.

Agreed. But what about the other branch of Islam? Read my post #51.

[Fred Nerks]

“Then again why does he bow so low to the Sunni leader?”

Pretense? The Saudi King wouldn’t be fooled by that.

“Why did he want us out of Iraq so quickly, weakening their defense?”

All the better for shia Iran to gobble up Iraq?

“He seems OK with the collapse of Pakistan to the Sunni extremists.”

A failed state is easier to conquer?

“He did attend a Wahhabi school in Jakarta.”

They have the numbers in Indonesia.

“The Wahhabists like to be refered to as unitarians. He went to a unitarian Marxist church that embraced many religions, supposedly.”

I know nothing about that..sorry.

[PhilDragoo]

ali Hussein bowed to Abdullah, and has no reservation meddling in Israel, bullying Jews.

ali Hussein is overly solicitous of Islamofascist dictators,

stacking their right to repress above rights of those crying for freedom--

just as his Charles Freeman did vis-a-vis Tiananmen.

ali Hussein will not harrass Communist North Koreas munition ships nor its belligerent weapons development.

And he will not interfere with the Holocaust Denier's centrifuges, while slashing funding for F-22s and BMD.

If ali Hussein is not an Islamo-Commie he is a functioning simulation of one.

He will never interfere in the mass beatings and shootings.

Does he not picture the same here.

A yes or no question.

[TheThinker]

All the better for shia Iran to gobble up Iraq?

Or for Al-Qaeda to reemerge?

[Fred Nerks]

I really do not know, but for the caliphate to become established, we are to believe the sects must unite, to overpower the world...

and that suggests to me a war within islam itself, for only one can exit the victor.

[2ndDivisionVet]

King Abdullah is a Sunni Muslim.

[FARS]

Close but there’s much more to it as there are about five “mlitary “ forces operating in Iran.

Too tired tonight to get into details but stay tuned to http://antimullah.com posts.

[FARS]

Currently teh “law enforcement” forces attack to break up any group of more than THREE people!

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/06/brutal-islamic-regime-has-lost-all.html

[Steve Van Doorn]

in order for Obama to be the next Caliphate he must lead a country that ruled by Sharia.