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To: mountainbunny

Even I agree that what Sanford did was wrong, that isn’t the point.

None of us can live up to the principals within scripture, Alinsky and the left knows that. But, we advertise ourselvesas we can by throwing out any candidate who may err, regardless of how well they may have reprsented us or performed in their office.

I neither condone nor approve of what Sanford did, but isn’t it best left between he and his wife and then the voters in South Carolina?

In the meantime, like I keep saying, Dems circle the wagons and retain their candidates who represent their view well and we end up where we are, under Democrat rule, completely.

At a recent Excutive board meeting of three county party’s I attended, I was embarrased that a lady got up and stated she was reluctant to nominate or front candidates from her district because they were Mormon, as she was.

She mentioned the reaction from Evangelicals towards Mitt Romney (who I don’t support, but not because he is Mormon).

This attitude is what I mean, that candidates must fit into someone’s perceived church, or do not apply.

Be it because of religion or some transgression, we eleminate our own best people because they don’t live up to standards the left says we must adhere to because we claim “family values.”

And, what do we do but accomodate them by throwing out our own people?

He resigned from the National Office he held and should he and his wife reconcile, it is no one else’s business.

Should he not resign from the governor’s office, bet your bottom dollar Democrats and Evangelical Republicans will line up against him, regardless of how well he preformed in office.

Don’t be surprised to see the Democrat win and sell the state down the drain afterwards.

What is so hard for evangelicals about “Judge not lest ye be judged?”


197 posted on 06/25/2009 12:24:07 AM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed
Don't forget that scripture in its entirety:

MATTHEW 7:1-5:
"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

This is obviously telling people not to be hypocritical. The Bible does not instruct us to close our eyes to wrong doing. There are actually a number of passages directing us TO JUDGE, but to judge rightly. So, don't be a hypocrite, that is the sum of that verse, often used by people to club Christians over the head.

202 posted on 06/25/2009 9:30:05 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: DakotaRed
Be it because of religion or some transgression, we eliminate our own best people because they don’t live up to standards the left says we must adhere to because we claim “family values.”

It is disingenuous to watch politicians quote the Bible and talk about family values, to court voters with their piety, then expect those concepts to be dropped from the conversation when things go south, as they often do.

If a politician leaves talking about their faith out of it, then I agree with you - it shouldn't be an issue.

But, if like Mark Sanford, they talk about their "moral legitimacy", then the tactics they used on the way up are the ones that will bite them on the way back down.

It is flat out silly to expect everyone to stand by and resist the urge to point out Mark Sanford's hypocrisy. It goes against everything we know about human nature.

At a recent Executive board meeting of three county party’s I attended, I was embarrassed that a lady got up and stated she was reluctant to nominate or front candidates from her district because they were Mormon, as she was.

She mentioned the reaction from Evangelicals towards Mitt Romney (who I don’t support, but not because he is Mormon).

This attitude is what I mean, that candidates must fit into someone’s perceived church, or do not apply.

In all honesty, I am unsure what to make of this. On the one hand, I recognize that some Evangelicals dislike the Mormon faith. On the other hand, I (and many others) have been accused more than once of being "anti-Mormon" because I will not support Mitt Romney. The willingness of some to blame their failures on "anti-Mormonism" is very real.

Without more information, I really cannot comment except to say that I am not an Evangelical, and Mitt Romnney's Mormonism doesn't play a part in why I'd never ever vote for him. His liberalism and his utter inability to have an opinion that he didn't garner from polling data does. I would absolutely vote for a Mormon if they had ideas that meshed with mine.

In the meantime, like I keep saying, Dems circle the wagons and retain their candidates who represent their view well and we end up where we are, under Democrat rule, completely.

If we want to stop being judged on moral issues, we have to stop running on them. There is far too much moralizing in politics, far too much pandering. It is a double-edged sword, as we've seen this week and before. We'll continue to see it as long as we allow or prefer politicians who pander.

For the record, I'm not calling for God to be removed from the equation. I am for politicians living a good, moral life rather than talking about it endlessly.

205 posted on 06/25/2009 1:32:54 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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