Swine Flu Might Be Even More Contagious
Tests Show People ‘Shed’ the Swine Flu Virus for Days Longer Than First Thought
By MICHAEL SMITH
MedPage Today Staff Writer
Sept. 16, 2009—
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/SwineFluNews/people-shed-swine-flu-virus-longer-thought/story?id=8584596
SAN FRANCISCO — People infected with the swine flu (or H1N1 pandemic flu) strain continue to shed virus after the point where current recommendations say they can go back to work or school, two studies suggested Tuesday.
The question, experts said, is whether those people are still contagious and whether a longer stay-at-home period would prevent enough additional infections outweigh the cost.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control currently says people should wait at least a day after their fever subsides — usually three or four days after the onset of symptoms — before resuming normal activities.
But patients can continue to shed virus for several days after that, according to data presented at the annual Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy in San Francisco.
Even so, detection of virus doesn’t necessarily mean contagion, said Dr. Gaston De Serres, of Laval University in Quebec City.
“We detected live virus,” he told reporters. “We cannot say (patients are) contagious but they have the potential to be.”
De Serres and colleagues studied 43 people with confirmed H1N1 pandemic flu, as well as members of their households, using polymerase chain reaction technology to detect the virus and culture methods to find live influenza.
Eight days after their symptoms started, De Serres said eight of the 43 (or 19 percent) were still shedding live virus, detected by culture methods.
Meanwhile, in a similar study, Dr. David Chien Lye, of Tan Tock Seng Hospital in Singapore reported that even after treatment with oseltamivir (Tamiflu), patients may still shed virus for several days.
Lye and colleagues studied 70 patients treated in the hospital after they showed signs of the pandemic flu. They found that 80 percent were still shedding virus after five days of illness, compared with 40 percent after seven days and 10 percent after 10 days.
The longest period during which a patient shed virus was 12 days from the start of symptoms, he said. Lye used a different method to detect the virus and wasn’t able to tell whether the virus given off by the patients was a “live virus,” he said. But he said a small sub-study in which both tests were used provided similar results in each instance.
De Serres said he and his colleagues are still trying to determine if any of their participants transmitted the virus after the first seven days.
For his part, Lye said his patients did not actually transmit the virus, since they were hospitalized and staff took full precautions against the flu.
Both researchers said more study is needed, but the findings suggest that people with the H1N1 flu shouldn’t rush to resume normal activities.
“If you only stay home a couple of days,” De Serres said, “it’s very likely you will still be contagious.”
The mere act of shedding virus may not mean much, according to Dr. Donald Low, of Toronto’s Mount Sinai Hospital, because modern tests are so sensitive they can find viruses long after they’re dead.
Shedding a Virus Doesn’t Always Mean Spreading Disease
For instance, he said, researchers tested a carpet several months after one of the first victims of Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) had vomited on it.
“It was just chock-full of virus,” he said, “but it was all dead.”
He added that health policy-makers must balance the economic impact of telling people to stay home longer with the medical impact of some potential extra infections.
The current recommendation is intended to decrease the chance of transmitting the virus, rather than to stop it completely, said Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the deputy director of the CDC’s influenza division.
“Some people will continue to shed live virus after their fever stops, we know that,” he said, but it’s not clear that they remain contagious.
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