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To: MBB1984; Oatka

Since you think the unarmed students were using deadly weapons, why didn’t you suggest that we just drop a nuclear bomb on Kent State? What is the difference in our troops killing our own citizens and the Iranians killing theirs? That was Carol Costello’s point, unfortunately you are so convinced that our unarmed citizens deserved to be killed. Shame on you. Toss out the Constitution, you are no different than the Marxist in the White House now.


47 posted on 06/24/2009 5:44:02 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale
Since you think the unarmed students were using deadly weapons, why didn’t you suggest that we just drop a nuclear bomb on Kent State?
Steady lad, steady. You're falling into the liberal attack mode of hyperbole.

What is the difference in our troops killing our own citizens and the Iranians killing theirs?
Now you're falling into the sucker/moral equivalency mode the liberals have set up - making the tragic shooting (which lasted 13 seconds) of some violent students with days-long protests of people who have been screwed out of an election.

Check out the full timeline at Wikipedia. Here are some educational snips about the "innocent" students [my emphasis]:

(snip)When the National Guard arrived in town that evening . . . a large demonstration was already under way on the campus, and the campus [ROTC] building (which had been scheduled for demolition) was burning. More than a thousand protesters surrounded the building and cheered the building's burning. While attempting to extinguish the fire, several Kent firemen and police officers were hit with rocks and other objects by those standing near the fire. More than one fire engine company had to be called in because protesters carried the fire hose into the Commons and slashed it.

(snip)On Monday, May 4, a protest was scheduled to be held at noon . . . University officials attempted to ban the gathering, handing out 12,000 leaflets stating that the event was canceled. Despite this, an estimated 2,000 people gathered. Fearing that the situation might escalate into another violent protest, [the National Guard] attempted to disperse the students. The dispersal process began late in the morning with campus patrolman Harold Rice riding in a Guard Jeep, approaching the students to read them an order to disperse or face arrest. The protesters responded by throwing rocks, forcing the Jeep to retreat.

(snip)Just before noon, the Guard returned and again ordered the crowd to disperse. When most of the crowd refused, the Guard used tear gas. Because of wind, the tear gas had little effect . . . and some began a second rock attack with chants of "Pigs off campus!" The students lobbed the tear gas canisters back at the National Guardsmen; however, they had put on gas masks upon first throwing tear gas at the students.

(snip)When it was obvious the crowd was not going to disperse, a group of 77 National Guard troops . . . with bayonets fixed . . . began to advance upon the hundreds of protesters. As the guardsmen advanced, the protesters retreated up and over Blanket Hill, heading out of The Commons area.
They had cleared the protesters from the Commons area, and many students had left, but many stayed and were still angrily confronting the soldiers, some throwing rocks and tear gas canisters. At the end of about ten minutes, the guardsmen began to retrace their steps back up the hill toward the Commons area. Some of the students on the Taylor Hall veranda began to move slowly toward the soldiers as the latter passed over the top of the hill and headed back down into the Commons.

(snip)At this point . . . a number of guardsmen at the top of the hill abruptly turned and fired . . . at the students. The guardsmen directed their fire not at the closest students, . . . but at those on the grass area and concrete walkway below the veranda, at those on the service road between the veranda and the parking lot, and at those in the parking lot. Bullets were not sprayed in all directions; instead, they were confined to a fairly limited line of fire leading from the top of the hill to the parking lot. Not all the soldiers who fired . . . directed their fire into the students. Some soldiers fired into the ground, while a few fired into the air. In all, 29 of the 77 guardsmen claimed to have fired their weapons, using a final total of 67 bullets. The shooting was determined to have lasted only 13 seconds . . . The question of why the shots were fired remains widely debated.

That last is still going on to this day, but note the word "debated" - not ranting.

54 posted on 06/25/2009 7:35:34 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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