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The Problem with Iranian Elections
Entitlement Syndrome ^ | 06/22/2009 | Admin

Posted on 06/22/2009 9:51:30 AM PDT by BigKahuna

... In this regard, we continue to scratch our heads over people — many of whom live in democratic societies themselves — who mute their criticism of what Iran’s own security forces are doing to quash legitimate dissent, expressed by the people of the country through marches and protests. Stories in the media are rife with violence done against men and women protestors, even to the point of outright murder. We think this is a situation that demands forceful denunciation in the loudest terms possible, and not muted “tsk-tsks,” which we note seems to be the order of the day among the more “nuanced” in our own society.

One reader remarked to us that — as far as balloting in Iran has historically occurred — “Iran’s elections in the past have generally been regarded as fair, even when the Christian world didn’t like the outcome.” Leaving aside the attempt to conflate Christianity with the democratic societies of the West, we tend to reply to that particular observation (voiced by more than a few people from the left side of our political spectrum) with the counter-observation that they’ve been fair as far as elections held in repressive and thuggish theocratic regimes go, we suppose. Really, if the data point used for comparison is fairness of balloting in a regime such as the one in Iran, then we wonder what people would have had to say about balloting for the National Socialists in Germany in the days before World War II really became a world war.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iranelections; iranprotests

1 posted on 06/22/2009 9:51:31 AM PDT by BigKahuna
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2 posted on 06/22/2009 9:53:26 AM PDT by pabianice
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Iran election turnouts exceeded 100% in 30 towns. Taft, a town in the central province of Yazd, had a turnout of 141%, Kouhrang, in Chahar Mahaal Bakhtiari province, recorded a 132% turnout while Chadegan, in Isfahan province, had 120%.

At least 200 polling stations across Iran had participation rates of 95% or above.

Kamran Daneshjou, the head of the ministry’s election commission has attributed the reported 141% participation in the town of Taft to the good weather in Yazd province, where the town is situated.

3 posted on 06/22/2009 9:53:45 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: gandalftb

Unbelievable. But the election was fair, according to some folks.


4 posted on 06/22/2009 9:59:19 AM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: BigKahuna

I was thumbing through a Rick Steves book in Houston yesterday and he said on one page some things that made sense about American military might has helped to make most of the world safe to travel in, to live in. But he said one line about war, that many people in other countries went along with our war in Afghanistan, but not Iraq.

Well, can those people read about what life was like under Sadam Hussein and his sons in Iraq before the war there? innocent Iraqi women and children gassed to death. Innocent Iraqi men dropped into acid bath, or wood chippers. Legs first so the pain lasted longer, death was slower in coming. How can ANYONE be against toppling Iraq?

And now we have N. Korea, China, and Iran, and some south American countries that are just as bad. We can’t take care of every problem in the world. But we did a good thing in Iraq.

I don’t know which way we will go in Iran, or N. Korea which is planning to destroy Hawaii on July 4 with nuke attacks. Obama is such a sissy. But at least with the last few presidents, the world was made safer.


5 posted on 06/22/2009 10:00:14 AM PDT by buffyt (Obama administration isn't SNAFU, it is AFU ! Hold on to your wallet, bumpy ride ahead.)
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To: BigKahuna

Yes, very fair, with over 100% voter turn out, all voting for Ache me knee job


6 posted on 06/22/2009 10:01:15 AM PDT by buffyt (Obama administration isn't SNAFU, it is AFU ! Hold on to your wallet, bumpy ride ahead.)
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To: BigKahuna

The problem with Iranian elections:

They don’t exist.


7 posted on 06/22/2009 10:18:42 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: pabianice

Juan Cole wrote that Ahmadinejad received 57% of the vote in the city of Tabriz despite the fact that this was the capital of Moussavi’s home province. Show me any other election where the candidate didn’t win the majority in his home town. Heck, even Al Gore got 75% in his hometown of Carthage, Tennessee.


8 posted on 06/22/2009 10:24:24 AM PDT by slackerjack
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To: gandalftb

Mahmoud ripped a page from the Soros/ACORN/Obama Election Playbook.

I’m pretty sure Obama has thus far remained largely silent on the situation in Iran is because HE is the product of a rigged election here. (Not to mention the whole BC/citizenship issue that won’t die!)

He’ll most likely wait until the body count over there grows to a point where it provides cover for his gross hipocracy in even mentioning a rigged election in Iran.

Then, of course, there’s the matter of the sub-rosa suspension of posse comitatus HERE should those who haven’t fully partaken of the Obama Kool-Aid hit the streets in significant numbers and get frisky.


9 posted on 06/22/2009 10:31:47 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (HE)
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To: BigKahuna

Yep.......just waiting for jimmuh cahter to certify the elections were fair in 3,2,1......


10 posted on 06/22/2009 11:03:41 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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“Heck, even Al Gore got 75% in his hometown of Carthage, Tennessee”

But he did lose the state, which is the only thing that matters, right? Which made me laugh.


11 posted on 06/22/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by Tublecane
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"Ahmadinejad received 57% of the vote in the city of Tabriz"

Tabriz is the heart of E Azerbaijan, and Azeris are among the tightest ethnic groups in Iran, always voting along ethnic lines.

For example: In the 2005 presidential election, an Azeri unknown, Mohsen Mehralizadeh came in seventh nationally, yet he still won in Azerbaijan.

Mousavi is an Azeri from Tabriz and lost badly??? In Tabriz?? Impossible.

No question there was a huge turnout, 75% of voters. But a national poll two weeks before the election had Mousavi at 38% and Ahmad i Nejad at 34%.

Acorn has a lot to learn about fixing elections.

12 posted on 06/22/2009 12:32:52 PM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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