Posted on 06/21/2009 7:00:52 AM PDT by HotLead61
Is that the same way as in Social Security Numbers were not to be used as Identification numbers? ;)
Waco style comes to mind !
“an NRA member as “refusing to cooperate.” “?
Get a search or arrest warrant or get the hell off MY property.
How’s that for uncooperative?
In Border States, BATFE Asks: “May We See Your Guns?”
Sure. As soon as you show me your warrant.
The only answer that an American can or should give to that question from a Government agent.
Not to drone on and on about quaint little concepts like our Constitutional rights and all, but IIRC, back when they started those sobriety check points, one of the main objections was that people were being searched without probable cause.
It was another case of the erosion of our rights – it was decided that the enforcement of DWI laws was more important.
It used to be that the government couldn’t just randomly decide to search persons on the street or search people’s homes for no damn good reason.
So what’s the justification here?
Here's my lawyer's number, goodbye.
The BATF seems to be on a fishing expedition. They are asking for consent searches because they don't have enough info for a warrant. The key to consent searches is that the subject has to say yes.
I would be interested to see if they could get a warrant. Even if they went warrant shopping they probably wouldn't stand up in court later.
Step 1. Grab video camera and begin recording the entire encounter.
Step 2. Demand to see credentials and WRITE DOWN the names of all involved.
Step 3. Demand, do not ask, DEMAND to see a duly constituted Warrant.
Step 4. If no Warrant is produced order, do NOT ask, the BATFE thugs off your property with a stern warning not to return without said Warrant.
Step 5. Note license plates of all vehicles involved.
Step 6. Upload video of encounter to Youtube along with a written narrative including the names of the alleged ATFE agents involved.
Step 7. Notify your local Sheriff of the ATF activities and DEMAND that the Sheriff require written permission before the ATFE can engage in ANY such activities in the future.
Step 8. Retain counsel. Make copies of videos and written records and give them to said Counsel.
That'll do for a start.
My answer would contain only two.
What other word besides "no"?
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I would add, if questioned it would be wise to record the interview with the knowledge of the BATFE agent or to take notes at the time of the “interview”.
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Anyone that lets them in without a warrant is stupid. Also they should video tape them from the time they answer the door to the time they leave.
Your Warrent?
Your authority?
You’re tresspassing!
My a$$?
SO many many possibilities....
So what would happen if you tell them to bugger off?
Don’t forget to send copies to friends and family.
how about this answer, yes as soon as the zero provides a voluntary copy of his certificate of live birth?
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In theory that would probably be VERY cool; but I wonder if that would be construed as a “failure to cooperate by a right-wing extremist”, a further excuse to be “pigeonholed” as a resistor. Some wouldn’t care about that. Others might think that would basically make you “one of the first” to get a visit from Hussein’s “basij”.
Welcome to FR, ewp! Glad to have you here.
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